Qwobec Bashing 2016
or pure visceral hate
…Yoh Canada ! ! Now tell me who’s racist in Canada?? …YOU or ME
With these kind of paternalistic, supremacist comments, no wonder Québec want to divorce from people like you ?
Nous devons arrêter de quémander au Canada pour des droits qui nous appartiennent. Le jeu du Canada est de nous faire passer pour des quêteurs ou pour des gitans qui réclament leur place au soleil dans tout le Canada. Les médias anglophones et les »Good-French » sont toujours présents avec condescendance pour montrer le bon chemins au petits québécois. La SSJB devrait faire comme le Bnai Brith et passer à l’attaque à toutes les fois que le peuple québécois est victime de propos offensants de la part de libéraux ou des médias. Je suis tanné du »Québec Bashing ». Plusieurs québécois s’abstiennent de s’affirmer de peur d’être juger de façon méprisante par de féroces adversaires. Avec 400 millions d’anglophones en Amérique du Nord, les 8 millions de québécois devraient avoir toute sa liberté de s’exprimer en français sans avoir sempiternellement à défendre cette ultime liberté. La Reine Elizabeth II et le Canada a le devoir de défendre l’usage d propos offensants envers toutes les nations du pays. Je ne peux pas croire que la Reine laisse aller les choses et le mépris envers une des nations de son royaume. Assez c’est assez, la nation québécoise doit porter plainte à la Souveraine. Aucun de ses représentants fédéraux ne veut défendre le Québec. Ce n’est pas normal que je me sente comme on paria ou comme un peuple indésirable chez moi.
Tout genre de »Quobayk Bashing » doit être interdit par la Loi et tout contrevenant est doit être passible de fortes amandes.
LIRE ATTENTIVEMENT ce qui suit.
Je suis écœuré de VIVRE dans ce genre de Canada.
The starting line in the National Post: Bloc Quebecois uses Rio Olympics to promote independence with video of athlete winning a medal for Quebec. Postmedia News and The Canadian Press | August 6, 2016 2:18 PM ET
Northern Alberta Institute of Technology
Part of me wants them to separate so they realize how economically and politically unstable they are without us. Their money would run dry quickly and they’d become unhappy as they would have no one to use as a scapegoat anymore.
Like · Reply · 185 · Aug 6, 2016 11:40am
Robert Smith
Yup, they’d be annexed either by the US or right back into Canada within a year.
Like · Reply · 16 · Aug 6, 2016 11:41am
Robert Smith You really think the US would want a whiney bunch of deadbeats who don’t work and don’t even speak their language? Canada’s been putting up with it for 149 years and can’t wait to see the back of them!
Like · Reply · 40 · Aug 6, 2016 11:52am · Edited
Tanya Sweet
You forget they want to keep our currency and trade though.
Like · Reply · 10 · Aug 6, 2016 11:48am
It’d be a smaller province than they’d expect
The Cree, Algonquin in the north would take Ruperts Land and the Mohawk along the St Lawrence, would hold territory along the river, supported by their US cousins.
Like · Reply · 22 · Aug 6, 2016 11:53am · Edited
Sadly they not only have ruined the province of Quebec but are also taking over and ruining the province of New Brunswick, in my opinion.
Like · Reply · 10 · Aug 6, 2016 11:55am
They will never separate. That’s not the goal. They continue to sabre rattle and, they continue to get the golden egg and, the rest of the country gets to pay for it while they laugh at us. Smart on « their » part.
Like · Reply · 27 · Aug 6, 2016 11:56am
Deborah MacMichael taking over? Don’t you agree they have it?
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 11:57am
Bill Dahmer
The problem being this simple: they are still Canadian citizens, and they would have dual citizenship, so even if Quebec crumbles, they could move elsewhere, to Ontario for example, and still collect Canadian health and social benefits, or even work for the Federal government in Ottawa that is still bilingual, which favors native French speakers.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 12:13pm · Edited
Oracle Database Administrator (Oracle DBA) atFujitsu Consulting
Yeah right with all our ressource we will burn…. if well managed Québec doesnt need Canada come on…
Like · Reply · 10 · Aug 6, 2016 12:16pm
Guillaume Goulet-Vallieres since when has Quebec even come close to good management?
Like · Reply · 18 · Aug 6, 2016 12:35pm
Dylan Thiessen ·
Guest Services Agent at Super 8 Hotel
Yeah, I mean, what does Quebec have? Low tuition, low rent, low costs of childcare. But they really can’t do anything right.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 12:47pm
Stationary engineer at Napanee water supply
Robert Smith NO THEY WOULDNT BE ANNEXED the last vote for separation there were so many first nations fully prepared to take it all back they will never be able to separate and keep quebec and the first nations will not leave its treaties so it will be returned back into canada plain and simple and the feds would sit back and wait
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 12:47pm
Dave Alton It’s happening right now (finally). They’ve at least now balanced their budget albeit with still receiving close to 8 billion in equalization payments. But yeah, they are coming close now.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 12:48pm
GL Forsythe
All of me wants them to separate. The rest of the provinces will take the money saved from the transfer payments and do ourselves some good. We will also be able to travel through all the provinces and be treated with respect even when we don’t speak french.
Like · Reply · 5 · Aug 6, 2016 1:09pm
Guillaume Goulet-Vallieres Please, please by all means show us how you will support yourselves minus ALL funds given to you by the federal government and with ALL government offices closing in Quebec.
Like · Reply · 5 · Aug 6, 2016 1:14pm
Guillaume Goulet-Vallieres Without the $7.833 Billion transfer payment,come on
Like · Reply · 7 · Aug 6, 2016 1:22pm
Victoria Cross ·
Frederick Hollinger He might promise them visa free travel in our fair and beauteous country, as he did for Mexican and Romanians visitors, last month.
I wonder if First Nation Quebecers will demand benefits from Quebec, equal to those they get from the Crown… Quebec settlers were the first Canadians to start the rape pillage and plunder of Native lands…and peoples.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 1:09pm · Edited
Guillaume Goulet-Vallieres the key word here is IF. So far Quebec is far from well managed it’s laughable. The corruption alone is staggering. And you continue to alienate the rest of the country and tourists to the point that no one wants to visit and be abused by rude people. Lost cause all round. And this is coming from a white former Quebecer. I mention my colour due to the high racist attitudes of the population of Quebec.
Like · Reply · 10 · Aug 6, 2016 1:53pm
Head Coach at Medicine Hat Water Polo
Guillaume Goulet-Vallieres « if well managed Québec doesnt need Canada », IF.
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Like · Reply · 9 · Aug 6, 2016 1:57pm
Head Coach at Medicine Hat Water Polo
Dylan Thiessen « Yeah, I mean, what does Quebec have? Low tuition, low rent, low costs of childcare. But they really can’t do anything right. ». You do realize that all that is inexpensive because the rest of Canada subsidizes it via « equalization » payments, right? That’s why those services across the rest of Canada are extremely expensive. So if you think it’s such a great idea, then PLEASE separate.
Like · Reply · 7 · Aug 6, 2016 1:59pm
Joseph Aspler
Guillaume Goulet-Vallieres Sure thing, you mean the way Bill 101 (written by the Petainist Dr. Camille Laurin) drove more than 400,000 people and tens of billions of dollars to Ontario. All those billions of dollars would come in handy to repair Quebec’s crumbling infrastructure, but Toronto thanks you for the gift. They should have statues of Levesque, Parizeau, and Laurin in downtown Toronto: the greatest friends that Toronto’s economy ever had.
Like · Reply · 6 · Aug 6, 2016 3:58pm
Dylan Thiessen And how have they subsidized their low rent, low costs of childcare and low tuition ???? Exactly how much money has the rest of Canada contributed ???
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 2:13pm
Lou Dem ·
Nancy Doukas Your comment is patently false. I encourage you to visit Montreal or Quebec City during the summer and you’ll find that the amount of tourists is properly staggering. As far as corruption is concerned, Quebec is the only province that addressed that issue. If you want to see real corruption, go to an Ontario Liberal fundraising dinner at $ 10 000 a plate or, better yet, go to Alberta and visit Redford’s penthouse. Furthermore, I’ll add that our budget is balanced, our debt is reducing and our credit rating is getting much better, while Ontario, Saskatchewan and Alberta are all getting credit downgrades and more debt.
Like · Reply · 8 · Aug 6, 2016 2:32pm · Edited
Lou Dem ·
Jason Williams Wrong. While transfer payments do help to offset some costs, the amount we get per capita is much lower than what they get in the Maritimes. The vast majority of services are paid for via aggressive taxation on the provincial level. The services you refer to are more expensive in the ROC because their provincial taxation rates are lower. Simple as that.
Like · Reply · 8 · Aug 6, 2016 2:27pm · Edited
Charles-Antoine Plamondon ·
Security Guard at City of Edmonton Jobs
Cameron Doerr i love how you unleashed them on me 😂😂💩
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 2:33pm
Sunbury West Regional High School
I agree we have catered to long to the lazy jerks ! They would starve to death in no time .
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 2:35pm
Earl of March Secondary School
It wouldn’t be good for us in eastern Ontario. Refugees might start flowing in from western Quebec.
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 4:26pm
Head Coach at Medicine Hat Water Polo
Lou Dem Come talk to me when you’ve graduated. Right now, you’re dealing with a high school education and life experience, and it shows.
Like · Reply · 6 · Aug 6, 2016 4:36pm
Dan Labonte
Tanya Sweet yah well teenagers want all sorts of things, doesn’t mean mommy and daddy give it to them ……
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 4:51pm
Dan Labonte
Bill Dahmer that’s quite the assumption you make.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 4:54pm
Dan Labonte
Dylan Thiessen and all of those « low » advantages would disapear the minute they equalization payments stopped and the international credit rating agencies published their opinions of Quebec’s credit score!
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 4:56pm
Président ,seul actionnaire at Distribution U-NIC INC.
Québec will be independant some day and don’t worry it will be one of the richest country in the world. Canada will stay a conservative retarded country .
Without Quebec has no culture of its own .
Like · Reply · 6 · Aug 6, 2016 5:03pm
Martha E. Nelson ·
they should take the thousands of syrians brought with them
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 5:05pm
Joseph Aspler
Yves Perron Nice try, Yves. You mean you are going to get back all those billions of dollars that left Quebec? So that’s why the Bloc Quebecois got 20% of the vote in the last federal election, and the Parti Quebecois got 25% of the vote in the last provincial election. Dream on, Yves. You separatists lost the 1980 referendum 60/40 with a relatively honest question, You nearly cheated your way to victory in 1995 with a combination of a patently dishonest question and campaign and dirty tricks that included voter suppression in anglophone ridings. And if you want to whine the separatist part…See More
Like · Reply · 6 · Aug 6, 2016 5:13pm
Frederick Hollinger Yea the states would take Quebec. The hydra power would go south and nothing they could do about it.
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 6:09pm
Head Coach at Medicine Hat Water Polo
Yves Perron If Quebec leaves, they will be asking Greece for tips on how to prevent national bankruptcy within 3 years.
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 6:27pm
Al Stone
Robert Smith : I doubt the U.S. would want to take that charity case on. If they did, Quebec would qickly find out that there is only one official language spoken in the United States and that is English.
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 6:39pm
Al Stone
Bill Dahmer : If they were to separate, I suspect ther would be no option for dual citizenship since they would have revoked their alligence to Canada. They would and should be treated as any other fopreign national wanting to get residency status.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 6:42pm
Al Stone
Jason Williams : you forgot a haha
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 6:43pm
Al Stone
Yves Perron : Yup, another delusional Qubecer with a reality crisis.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 6:46pm
Diane Richards ·
Well at least Canadian taxpayers wouldn’t be bailing out Bombardier if they separate!
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 7:20pm
Joseph Aspler
Diane Richards Ah … you do realize that Bombardier has manufacturing facilities across Canada?
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 7:48pm
Joseph Jacques ·
School District No. 46 (Sunshine Coast)
Don Shirl McMillan master blackmailers as Pierre Trudeau would say!
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 8:54pm
Head Coach at Medicine Hat Water Polo
Al Stone Now that’s a border wall the Americans would be happy to pay for!
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 9:13pm
CEO / Chief Architect & Developer at CApp::Sysware Consulting Ltd.
Tanya Sweet : They also want to retain Canadian passports.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 9:52pm
CEO / Chief Architect & Developer at CApp::Sysware Consulting Ltd.
Dylan Thiessen : Thanks to transfer payments.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 9:53pm
Jacqueline Aubut Nisbet
Diane Richards yeah and the 78,000 jobs lost in july alone would rise putting tens of thousands more people out of work…thats a great option… sorry the govt also bails out the automotive industry and air canada on several occasions… its called saving jobs in an already fragile economy….would rather see the govt bail out manufacturers and save jobs than spend billions on allowing more refugees into a country that is already strained financially… and all social programs at its limit..
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 10:53pm
Student at In Home and my Garden
Michael Petch – Yeap , they would most certainly miss those transfer payments.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 10:55pm
Marc Bélisle ·
Luke Fisher Like in the seventies, the refugees would be anglos.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 4:26am
Marc Bélisle ·
More of the usual economic doomsday scenarios. Nothing new here, we’ve been hearing it for 50 years! Except, of course, when Québec holds referendums.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 4:31am
Jean Dodds
They will fail without the rest of Canada, and in the past they believed that they could join the USA…. ya, sure ! I get this picture of border crossings to go from Ontario to the Maritimes.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 6:17am
Jean Dodds
My dear husband, deceased now, was from Alma, and often got insults from english speaking in B.C. for his 1st few years out here, Until his dying day, he was a Canadian, not a french speaking canadian, but just a true canadian… oh how he hated the ignorance of the Bloc Quebec Quois
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 6:20am · Edited
Tanya Sweet, There’s nothing stopping a sovereign Quebec from using our currency or even piggy-backing on our numerous trade deals. The problem for Quebec then would be they would have absolutly NO SAY in ROC economic policies and further trade agreements. Up to now, our trade agreements have been signed so that they benefit all regions of Canada. If Quebec were to leave but hold on to our currency (with The Queen/King of Canada displayed on each bill) they would have no place at the table when economic policies are drafted nor would Canada be obliged to consider Quebec in our foreign or interprovincial trade deals. Long story short, Quebec would have far less control of their destiny should they want to use CDN currency and trade deals after separation.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 6:40am · Edited
Amber Ivers Quebecers may be a lot of things but stupid isn’t one of them. They know where their bread is buttered. Without massive financial infusions from the rest of the country, Quebec would most certainly collapse and the Quebecois know it. Their standard of living would plummet off a cliff and there is no way the people would allow their leaders to lead them down that path.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 6:49am
Yves Perron Under the rules of the Clarity Act, not likely.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 6:58am
Amber Ivers Austerity in Quebec? Ha. Let us know how that turns out. LOL
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 6:59am
John Smith
Tanya Sweet You cant have it both ways. They need to realize that..
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 7:04am
Lou Dem ·
Jason Williams That’s rich coming rom someone with only a high school education. I don’t normally resort to ad hominems or judge people on their education but when I do, I tell people to go to grad school before commenting on someone else’s education.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 7:08am · Edited
Lou Dem ·
Randall Johnston Thing is, what you call massive infusions of money are not massive at all. The amount of sales taxes and income taxes that Quebecers pay to the federal government are higher than the transfer payments that are then received. The total amount of equalization that Quebec receives per capita is roughly $ 1000 per person. The average amount of taxes a Quebecer pays in taxes to the federal government in a year is superior to $ 2500. In other words, a part of the money that’s sent to Ottawa comes back, and not all of it, especially given the fact that Ottawa provides less services in Quebec or provides unrequired services or duplicate services that shouldn’t be paid for in the first place.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 7:27am · Edited
Peter Renaud
Here in Quebec we don’t want to separate anymore. These morons a now a radical fringe party no one listens to. Even the PQs polls are in the toilet.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 7:23am
Lou Dem ·
Peter Renaud Indeed. That being said, not wanting to separate is not a reason to allow or ignore such a constant barrage of insults thrown our way.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 7:42am
Lou Dem the Billions over many years, have off set some costs..you are , Hilarious, then you say Alberta has credit down grading, well, fella, where is some of that , »Transfer » money coming from, when their economy has hit a rough year
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 8:13am · Edited
Teri Cole ·
Lou Dem Sorry but nobody can touch Quebec politics when it comes to corruption and transfer payments from the rest of Canada are your bread and butter. No other story will wash with Canadians.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 8:22am
Teri Cole ·
Yves Perron Funny guy. What about sovereignty association or distinct society? These concepts don’t sound very ‘independant’ to me. More like we want our cake and to eat it too.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 8:27am
Lou Dem ·
Teri Cole Then why is it that the Ontario Liberals have fundraising dinners at $ 10 000 a plate while the maximum contribution one can do to a political party in Quebec is $ 100? It’s easy to call a province corrupt when they have stringent rules in this regard while the neighbouring province has all but institutionalized corruption.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 8:31am
Lou Dem ·
Lorraine Sewards Not really. While Quebec does receive 10 billions annually in equalization payments, it pays 40 billions in income and sales taxes to the federal government which largely pays for services that Quebecers don’t use (i.e. RCMP) or don’t agree with (i.e. DND).
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 8:32am
Dan Labonte
Ric Seabrooke yes they could continue to use the CAD, just like economic powerhouses such as Ecuador, East Timor, El Salvador, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Palau, Turks and Caicos, British Virgin Islands, Zimbabwe but piggy back on trade deals signed by Canada? uh no.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:48am
Head Coach at Medicine Hat Water Polo
Lou Dem Oh, so Quebec « doesn’t agree » with certain national spending (you don’t use RCMP? How does that work?)… But that’s ok, because the rest of the country agrees completely to flushing 10B a year into the Quebec-self-entitlement coffers.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 8:58am
Peter Renaud
Lou Dem We use the RCMP and not everyone disagrees with having an Armed Forces.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 9:39am
Jennifer Mercury
I’ve been cheering for them to separate over the last two referendums.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 11:00am
Spencer Ferguson ·
Frederick Hollinger There’s an old joke. Why are there more blacks in the US and more French in Canada? America had first pick.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 12:24pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Tanya Sweet Yeah, that won’t be happening….
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 12:24pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Jay Steel Exactly! Last time around, the FN’s said they’re staying in Canada and that means Northern Quebec, along with the hydro projects…. The separatists would end up with Lower Canada, at best.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 12:26pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Don Shirl McMillan We need a national referendum asking all Canadians if we want to keep Quebec in Canada.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 12:26pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Bill Dahmer Says WHO? If they’re out, they’re out.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 12:27pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Dylan Thiessen HIGH taxes…
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 12:27pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Jim Somerville « …still receiving close to 8 billion in equalization payments… »? Yeah…..SO close to a balanced budget….
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 12:28pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Lou Dem $8 BILLION in welfare payments….. Have you read the Charbonneau commission report?
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 12:30pm · Edited
Spencer Ferguson ·
Lou Dem Incorrect! Quebec is a lazy, socialist welfare province. Once you’re PUNTED off the money teat, let’s see how FAST you start punching holes in the ground for that shale gas you’re sitting on.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 12:32pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Yves Perron The sooner we PUNT you lazy, whiny socialists, the better! The only ‘culture’ Quebec has is of the STI variety…. Celine Dion is a talentless, boring hack.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 12:34pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Joseph Aspler So what? They have facilities in Ireland and the US, also…
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 12:35pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Amber Ivers Are you drunk or stoned?
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 12:36pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Lou Dem « That’s rich coming rom someone with only a high school education. »? LMFAO!!!! Learn to spell.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 12:38pm
Joseph Aspler
Spencer Ferguson Look Spencer, you’re a racist and a bigot. I call out separatists for their racism and their bigotry, and I do the same to you.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 1:11pm
Robert Smith is there some way the rest of us can be annexed by the US?
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 1:28pm
Debra Grenier-Hayes ·
School Crossing Guard at Town of Halton Hills
problem is they want to take the tax money and perks with them and sit in « Canada’s » parliament. My Dad born and died in Quebec hated Separatist. I had one uncle who was,.my Dad told him if you leave you take NOTHING ..no tax money no passport, no army ..no legal Tender NOTHING..you want to be a separate country then YOU have to supply all of those..like any other country out there..we don’t give France money for being French..not even the little island off our coast so piss off..I lived in Quebec for my childhood until returning to Ontario with my mother..and I love Quebec but hate Separatist as much as my father…so if you want to leave go..don’t let the door hit you on the way out but you take nothing from MY country..
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 1:53pm
Bob Fry ·
Salisbury Composite High School-SAL. COMP
Frederick Hollinger Your totally correct no U.S. Adminstration would want them regardless of natural resources like Hydro. Americans would never put up with the terribla attitude of the Quebec citizens. They will never make it on their own anyway.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 2:27pm
Diane Richards ·
Joseph Aspler I realize that the Bombardier/Beaudoin families hold the voting shares and If they are going to manage the company poorly it’s about time they kicked in a few bucks instead of expecting the Quebec and Federal government to pay the freight.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 2:35pm
Debra Grenier-Hayes ·
School Crossing Guard at Town of Halton Hills
No they don’t you leave you leave.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 5:24pm
Enseignant at Commission scolaire des Affluents (page officielle)
Jay Steel, In that case, we’ll take a big part of East Ontario and all the Acadian part of New Brunswick, that means the third of NB…
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:21pm
@Cameron Doerr and others: This is hilarious, it’s like you monkeys are still in that imperialistic mindset that existed 100 years go between the United Kingdom and India: »Nonesense, India can’t govern itself! They need our racial-superiority to achieve any form of economical or social progress. Their society would colapse without our selfless help! » Goes to show who the biggots truly are. Oh, and then you talk of »acceptance » and »canadian multiculralism » like you have some kind of moral authority? What a sad bunch of blind hypocrits. But hey, don’t let me spoil your fun, keep the Quebec-bashing party going!
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:39pm
Joseph Aspler
Jérôme Lavoie « But hey, don’t let me spoil your fun, keep the Quebec-bashing party going! A typically immature and arrogant separatist response: whining « Quebec bashing » when anyone criticizes your specific movement Sorry, Jérôme: to criticize the nationalist and separatist movements is not « Quebec bashing ». « Quebec-bashing » is a piece of mythology invented by separatists to duck the tough questions. Let’s see – the Bloc got 19% of the vote in Quebec in the last Federal election. The PQ got 25% of the vote in the last provincial election. Wow, that’s really Quebec bashing to remind people t…See More
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:52pm
David Vincent ·
Merci pour ton inquiétude Cameron Doerr et nous sommes assez grand pour nous gérer par nous meme. Je vous souhaite beaucoup de bonheur avec la reine!
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:53pm · Edited
Joseph Aspler
Jérôme Lavoie A classic attempt by nationalists to silence critics: Perhaps you can explain the reaction of Quebec nationalists to the PhD thesis of Dr. Esther Delisle in the 1990s, on the subject of fascism and anti-Semitism in Quebec nationalism from the 1930s to the 1950s. I trust you have read the books summarizing her thesis, in both English and French. The response of Quebec nationalism: a massive temper tantrum against Dr. Delisle. She became a pariah in Quebec’s intellectual life. No French-language university would ever offer her… a job. What so shocked, shocked the nationalist …See More
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:54pm
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
So please, repeat that just before an election and before a referendum.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:35pm
Steph Carrier
ALL HAIL THE ENGLISHMAN OVERLORD. ENGLISHMAN MASTER RACE. NO ONE CAN SURVIVE WITHOUT THE ENGLISHMAN. /sarcasm Then you wonder why separatists are separatists when faced with paternalistic, patronizing, supremacist buffoons like you.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 12:34am
Joseph Aspler
Steph Carrier Patronizing? Paternalistic? Seriously Steph? Look in the mirror or at least look up the meaning of the term Freudian Projection And you wonder why Quebec minorities vote massively, overwhelmingly against the separatists. And why separatists like Parizeau, Laurin, and that old firebrand (a.k.a. racist) Pierre Bourgault threw racist temper tantrums at minorities You mean like the guy I’ve been debating with who claimed that French-Canadian veterans of World War II voted NO in 1980 and 1995 because they are « badly educated ». How’s that for patronizing and paternalistic? The Jewish community votes 97% NO. You do know that Montreal has a large francophone Jewish community. So the separatists could not even persuade francophone Jews to vote for them…See More
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 8, 2016 4:13am · Edited
Joseph Aspler
Steph Carrier Tell you what Steph, give us a good laugh: explain the temper tantrums thrown by Quebec’s nationalist elite at Dr. Esther Delisle when she wrote about the less-than-savoury parts of Quebec history. Remember Steph: what so shocked, shocked nationalists was just family history to me,
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 4:12am
Président-Fondateur at Le Théâtre Bleu
Frederick Hollinger LOL. Then why did you all do everything you could to stop us from separating years ago?
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 12:03pm
Yves Bobo ·
Teacher at Commission scolaire des Affluents (page officielle)
Ce n’est pas vrai. On verse 65 milliards de dollars à Ottawa à chaque année. La péréquation ne retourne que 1 à 3 milliards sur ce montant. Est-ce équitable ? Nous pouvons très bien vivre sans le reste de ce qui est pour moi le pays voisin: Le Canada. Le premier ministre actuel est un vrai clown et ne représente aucunement les Québécois!
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 1:18pm
Bob Fry ·
Salisbury Composite High School-SAL. COMP
Jérôme Lavoie First the comment about monkeys doesn’t sit well, but regardless with the Billions of dollars sent to Quebec
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 1:49pm
Works at Collège Mont Notre-Dame de Sherbrooke
Le Québec serait plus riche sans le Canada. 😉
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 2:25pm
Ce que « l’angry canadian » ne réalise pas, c’est que le pays du Québec sera libre de choisir la devise monétaire qui lui convient. Lorsque le dollar canadien tombera, le Québec achètera le maximum possible de cette devise et fera un gain net, lorsqu’inévitablement, le dollar canadian remontera. De plus, le Québec pourra répartir ses dépenses et revenus en fonction de SES valeurs et de SES besoins qui, la preuve est faite depuis longtemps, sont souvent à l’opposé des canadian. Les deux parties ont donc intérêt à s’entendre… ce ne sera pas facile, mais cela se fera.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 3:53pm
Jay Steel Si le processus était si simple pourquoi ces Nations autochtones ne réclament-elles pas « immédiatement » la séparation d’avec le territoire canadian. Le Québec a reconnu bien avant le R.O.C. l’importance des Traités ancestraux. Il a entrepris bien avant le R.O.C. de négocier des ententes mutuellement satisfaisantes SANS y être obligé par la Supreme Court !
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 4:00pm
Deborah MacMichael Ayoye !!! J’en ai entendu des vertes et des pas mûres, mais celle-là… Savez-vous que le Canada offre des subventions-prêts (avec MA PART des impôts) pour le développement de lignes électriques (à une autre province) et que cela compétitionnera directement le développement du réseau Hydro-Québec payé ENTIÈREMENT et uniquement avec MES impôts provinciaux ?
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 4:11pm
Bernadette Proulx ·
UQO | Université du Québec en Outaouais
Frederick Hollinger vous me faites pitié! sachez que nous étions là avant vous, bande d’ignorants de notre histoire!
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 8:11pm
Bob Fry ·
Salisbury Composite High School-SAL. COMP
Randall Johnston Rode in on a bus with Quebec people in Cuba to the resort, for five days I passed them and said « Good Morning » every day, totally ignored me with my « I Am Canadian » tee shirt, no response, on the sixth day, I said the same Good Morning, again with no response, so I stepped in front of them I told them it would be nice to be acknowledged as a Canadian, they walked around me and kept talking in their version of bastardize French. I wa so over whelmed that when they kept walking away I told them to go to Hell. If this is a typical Quebec citizen, then Stop the Transfer payments and leave them to their miserable selves! Canada doesn’t need this attitude of citizen. Let’s sent the 300,000 refugees to Quebec.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 8:33pm
Bob Fry ·
Salisbury Composite High School-SAL. COMP
Yves Bobo I truly believe your information on Equalization Transfer Payments, payed by Quebec is incorrect, the Chart that I have seen shows over $ 180 Billion Dollars going from Alberta to Quebec since the mid 1970. in last quarter 2015 with low oil prices, Ottawa received from Alberta $ 2.6 Billion Dollars and over 2015 the total; was $8.2 Billion Dollars and just a wild guess where that money went to « QUEBEC »
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 8:42pm
Bob Fry ·
Salisbury Composite High School-SAL. COMP
Joseph Aspler Please show me a chart with the dollar figures Quebec has transferred to Ottawa on Eua;lization Transfer Payments, I await your your chart of figures, then I may give your comment some validity.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 8:48pm
Et l’autre partie, Cameron? C’est celle qui nous aime ou qui a besoin de notre territoire et de nos ressources?
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 1:34pm
Victoria Cross : lies.
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 6:31pm
Joseph Aspler #: Canadians are more watchful of races than Québécois. Unlike the rest of Canada, the Québécois are largely a Métis nation. Being employed by the Indian and Northern Affairs Department in Ottawa teaches you a few things about the Dominion.
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 6:44pm
Réjean Drouin
When you have no valid fact, pretend that you know the future. When you pretend that you know the future then you have no valid fact.
Like · Reply · Aug 10, 2016 9:43am
Robert Smith I would prefer to bo be annexed by US than stay in Canada…
Like · Reply · Aug 11, 2016 12:22pm
Canada would depend on petron not Québec… Bombardier, CGI, Lavallin, etc.
Like · Reply · Aug 11, 2016 12:24pm
Works at Self-Employed
Canadian dollar worth only 77 cents
Like · Reply · Aug 22, 2016 4:10am
Machine Learning Engineer at Paytm Labs
This is the reason to quit Quebec because the politicians are morons. Instead of promoting multiculturalism, they promote arrogance to their French heritage and ignore the reality. They don’t know how much they have pushed Quebec to death. Quebec could be the greatest province of canada but québécois wants it to be the worst.
Like · Reply · 70 · Aug 6, 2016 12:44pm
That is so very true
Like · Reply · 5 · Aug 6, 2016 1:23pm
Lerry Lam, so why does Quebec need transfer money every year, if it’s so great, money comes from Canada, billions
Like · Reply · 7 · Aug 6, 2016 2:26pm
Ken Hass ·
A bonus of Quebec separating is that they could take the Turd with them.
Like · Reply · 11 · Aug 6, 2016 5:22pm
Al Stone
It`s too bad that after the French defeat on the Plains of Abraham the British did the one thing which was quite abnormal at the time, not assimilating the French into the British culture and Language. Qubecers were abandonded by the mothe country France, the British allowed then to keep their language, religion and feudal system of agriculture. Perhaps that was a mistake and the citizens of Quebec should be thankful for the generosity of England.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 6:52pm · Edited
Frédérick Potvin ·
Pray tell me how it would have been even close to possible to assimilate all of them. Of course that was very kind. But that was also all they could do to prevent a mass revolt. Try to convert all those people to protestantism just for fun. Or force them to speak English. Btw many anglo elites here in Québec wish and try to assimilate us. But that’s wishful thinking. It will never happen, even if we are the only North American nation to speak French. Vive le Québec Libre!
Like · Reply · 5 · Aug 7, 2016 5:49am
Frédérick Potvin Most Quebecers who speak only French are few, and those total francophones are like prisoners incarcerated from the real world. French is a dieing language. Total francophones by refusing to assimilate, live in a tunnel of biased ignorance.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 6:09am
Roger Tee ·
Just imagine of Quebec was bilingual!
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 7:25am
Peter Renaud
Not true Jerry Lam. Majority of Quebecers are federalists and are just as tired of the separatist agenda as you are. Canada is stronger united. The idea that Canada would be better off losing half of it’s central territory is retarded.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 7:27am
Frédérick Potvin : C’est dommage que personne ne puissent mettre un comment sur le internet sans que les retardées sortent pour prouvés leur stupiditées. Vive la Canadienne !
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:28am
Teri Cole ·
Frédérick Potvin Au revoir already.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 8:29am
Works at Self-Employed
Greg Snyder French is not a dieing language. On the contrary, French is on the rise thanks to African, North Africans, parts of Europe where French is important. On the other hand, the birthrate is low for French Canadians means….
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 10:27am
Spencer Ferguson ·
Frédérick Potvin You losers need to leave Canada.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 12:39pm
Joseph Aspler
Spencer Ferguson Guys like you are the greatest friends of the separatists. They pray and thank guys like you. In spite of you, thanks to Justin, the separatist Bloc Quebecois won only 19% of the vote in the last federal election. My uncle is buried with the rest of his crew from the French-Canadian Alouette Squadron; the anglophone Jew from Montreal beside a Protestant from Alberta and French-Canadian Catholics from Ottawa, Montreal, and Quebec City. So you see, Spencer, my family stopped taking racist bulls**t from anglo bigots and from separatist bigots a very long time ago.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 1:13pm
Hypocritical: pretending to promote multiculturalism but keep talking about « assimilating the French to the English language and the British culture ».
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 2:18pm
Spencer Ferguson That’s what he told you he wants to do. And you still want to stop him from trying. Why are you so oxymoronic?
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 2:19pm
Enseignant at Commission scolaire des Affluents (page officielle)
Lorraine Sewards, How many billions of taxes does Quebec is sending to Ottawa each year? About 80! A way lot more than all transfers, so keep your transfers, we’ll keep our taxes. Who do you think paid for the western development of Canada with the railroad Canadian Pacific and Canadian National? Ontarians and Quebeckers. Think about it…
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 8, 2016 8:32pm · Edited
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
Therefore, please, leave, quit, and never come back.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 9:35pm
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
Québec is not a multicultural society, it is a French society. Multiculturism is bad. Look what happens in Europe. It is an utopia and a failure.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 9:38pm
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
Btw, at your Paytm Lab, are they looking for Computer Vision Engineers?
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 9:40pm
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
Al Stone British didn’t have the choice to let us advantages. And they did try to assimilate us, it just didn’t work.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 9:50pm
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
Greg Snyder In 2060 : one billions French Speakers in the World. One of the main international languages. French is dying … in your dreams. Did you listen to Rio ceremony? French was used.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 9:52pm
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
Greg Snyder I refuse to assimilate and hablo español, ich spreche Deutsch, 私は少しだけ日本語を話すことができる and I don’t feel prisoner.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 9:57pm
President at Stay-at-home parent
Al Stone are you stone what the f….
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 4:44am
Bloc quebecois start buying all the canadian tires so you could have your own currency
Like · Reply · 106 · Aug 6, 2016 11:32am
Fergus Murphy
LOL but they’ll need to replace the Scot with someone more « suitable, » perhaps Rene Lesveque in a kilt? 🙂
Like · Reply · 12 · Aug 6, 2016 11:38am
Bon Homme du carnival would be more appropriate.
Like · Reply · 7 · Aug 6, 2016 11:51am
Love it
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 12:14pm
Vittorio Cheli ·
Capo di tutti capi at Vergogna Inc.
You win the Internet today. Well done.
Like · Reply · 6 · Aug 6, 2016 12:38pm
Fergus Murphy how about some oiled up, tanned Peasouper with a large shitlocker wearing nothing but a fleur de lis spangled banana hammock.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 12:41pm
Carol-Anne McMeekin
Fergus Murphy Thanks…….now that is a vision I will never get out of my head..
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 1:00pm
hilarious!!
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 1:04pm
Works at Retired
That’s correct. They should separate and take that moron JT with them. They wouldn’t be able to survive. Too stupid to realize they need us
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 1:15pm
Lou Dem ·
Your comment would have more gravitas if anything could prevent Quebec from using the Canadian dollar. Newsflash: Nothing can. It’s really the opposite, Canada would be in a situation where they would need to beg Quebec to keep using the Canadian dollar and not use the Greenback instead.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 2:30pm
Vittorio Cheli ·
Capo di tutti capi at Vergogna Inc.
Thanks for the economics report, Captain Buzz Killington.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 3:12pm
Dan Labonte
Lou Dem sure Quebec could continue using the Canadian currency, but of course they would have ZERO control or input on how the Bank of Canada manages it, oh and use the US dollar? sure, go ahead, it should be lot’s of fun to see how that works out ………. that being said why would Canada want to beg an allegedly independent Quebec to continue using it’s dollar? Wether you used the CAD, USD or freakin pesos it would still be glaringly obvious that you’re anything but actually independent.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 11:41pm · Edited
Patricia Jobba
Seriously, Lou Dem? Nothing can prevent Quebec from using the Canadian dollar if they separate?
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 6:26pm
Dan Labonte
Patricia Jobba actually Lou Dem is correct in saying nothing could prevent an independent Quebec from using the Canadian dollar as it’s currency, or even as he speculated the US dollar in which case Quebec would join such economic giants as: Ecuador, East Timor, El Salvador, Marshall Islands, Micronesia, Palau, Turks and Caicos, British Virgin Islands, Zimbabwe Doing so has a number of disadvantages though. If you don’t have your own money you can’t directly influence your economy, can’t formulate or administer monetary policy or set interest rates. You’re forced to live with whatever the a…See More
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 7:26pm · Edited
Kathleen Rose
Good one, Carole! 😂😂😂
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 11:24pm · Edited
Fergus Murphy How about Playdeau paddling a canoe.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 6:10am
Lou Dem Lou. Explain to us how every voter in Canada would support Canadian leadership that gave an independent Quebec a primary focus within every fiscal decision. With Quebec gone, the leadership of the ROC would be Western dominated. Even the GTA would not be enough to shift the balance of power. That’s not to say a Liberal Party with leadership from a western province couldn’t still be a gov’t, but the focus on policies would be on what we call now the ROC. In federal policies and monetary decisions, Quebec would get as much consideration as does Mexico or Boliva. If a decision also benefited Quebec, bonus. If not? Too bad.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 7:11am · Edited
Bravo Carole wonderful sense of humour.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:13am
Lou Dem ·
Dan Labonte For very obvious reasons. If Quebec stopped using the Canadian dollar and started using something else, there would be a massive devaluation of the Canadian dollar (and subsequent inflation) given a sudden abundance of the currency on the markets. Considering this, Canada would be in a situation where it would either have to deal with that devaluation or convince Quebec to keep using the currency. One of the ways in which Canada could convince Quebec to keep using the Canadian dollar would indeed be some input at the Bank of Canada.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 7:55am · Edited
Lou Dem ·
Ric Seabrooke In order to maintain the value of the currency? What do you suppose would happen to the Canadian dollar if nearly 25 % of the people who use it started to use something else? Short response: Massive devaluation and inflation.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 7:57am
Teri Cole ·
Mickey Finn Don’t give Playdeau any ideas. lol
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:30am
Teri Cole ·
Ric Seabrooke A liberal party with a western leader? As if that could happen, Liberal = Quebec (mafia)
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 8:34am
Dan Labonte
Lou Dem wow, please tell me you’re not an accountant, that you don’t do anyone’s taxes other than your own! Any negative effect on the CAD and by extension the Canadian economy would pale in comparison to what would happen in Quebec and the rest of Canada would certainly not be in any sort of mood to alleviate Quebec’s self-imposed pain. Oh and for someone who blathers on endlessly about forming an independent nation it’s rather comical that you can’t grasp the reality, NO sovereign nation allows another to have input at it’s central bank. It’s all a moot point anyway, Quebec separatists are an endangered species
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 9:01am · Edited
Fergus Murphy
Mickey Finn Your fantasy, perhaps. Not mine. Shitlocker?
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:19am
Earl Wallace ·
Debt would go down, stop giving those teet suckers payments, goes to profit.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 12:17pm
Spencer Ferguson ·
Lou Dem Newsflash! You’re delusional. Good luck trying to be a country without your own currency.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 12:43pm
Fergus Murphy more like a nightmare. Shitlocker is a term a friend of mine uses for giant gut.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 12:55pm
Mel Sims
Dan Labonte They could use it, but it would still have a picture of the Queen on it, and the word Canada
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 4:26pm
Dan Labonte
Mel Sims agreed, and like I said Lou is delusional if he really thinks the bank of Canada would entertain giving a so called « independent » Quebec any say whatsoever in BOC monetary policy.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:17pm
Works at Self-Employed you are one funny lady..
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:18pm
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
Pfff … n’importe quoi.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:36pm
Vous avez vraiment peur que nous partions, n’est-ce pas? 🙂
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 1:37pm
Matt Mac Mullin
Please give them their share of the debt, cut off all transfer payments, pull all Federal jobs out of Quebec including CF and have them hand over their Canadian passports. The rest of us would be fine without them.
Like · Reply · 55 · Aug 6, 2016 1:30pm
This would be a good idea if it doesn’t negatively affect the Maritime provinces…
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 5:11pm
Colin Ross ·
Let them leave with all the land they had when they lost the war… We’d save money and hassle on bilingualism too.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 11:58am
Bob Fry ·
Salisbury Composite High School-SAL. COMP
Pauline Leung Unfortunately the Atlantic provinces would suffer and the Federal Government would have to assist them, as the Alberta transfer payments wouldn’t be coming anymore.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 2:29pm
Enseignant at Commission scolaire des Affluents (page officielle)
And we keep our 80 billions of federal taxes? Deal!
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 7:28pm
Enseignant at Commission scolaire des Affluents (page officielle)
Colin Ross, I agree, institutional bilingualism is such an utopia…Another of all the reasons we have to be good neighbours instead of bad roommates…
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 7:32pm
David Vincent ·
Quand le Bas Canada et le Haut Canada ont fusionnés, il faudrait voir la dette en était ou… 50 000 pour les francais et des milions pour les anglais… ohhh la crosse depuis le début. Et c’est qui le responsable de la dette, qui a donné la presse a billet au banquier privé papa Justin, PET, le fiere canadien!
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 8:58pm
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
You can keep the share of the debt, we don’t need it.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 9:43pm
Universität des Saarlandes – Saarland University
Eric Semple Does your boss know about your lack of logic?
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:44pm
Dominique Beaulieu i would speak « logic » with hatred inbreds speaking solely one tongue… Just keep away from the USA we’ll be ok! 😉
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 1:10pm
Yves Bobo ·
Teacher at Commission scolaire des Affluents (page officielle)
Bilinguism? What bilinguism? If i go visit B.C. I would not be served in french. Can you speak french as i do for english?
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 8, 2016 1:24pm
Yves Bobo ·
Teacher at Commission scolaire des Affluents (page officielle)
That’s why you are affraid that we leave the rest of Canada.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 1:25pm
Agent at Guillaume Ruel – Tourneur
Hahaha youre so funny! Kind of people like you just stimulate independance of Quebec.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 8, 2016 2:59pm
Bernadette Proulx ·
UQO | Université du Québec en Outaouais
bunch of hypocrits who came in thousands to tell us they loved us in 1995! Now you ate us ???? Please stop whining!
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 8, 2016 8:17pm
Christian Lachance
Colin Ross On reprend le Labrador (donné illégalement à Terre-neuve) et on garde le contrôle sur l’entièreté du riche territoire Québécois
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 8:28am
Lorelei Lacey
Let them make their own trade agreements, their own currency, their own pension plans and let’s not forget Quebec is responsible for one THIRD of the national debt. Pay THAT and get the F*** out! Don’t let the door hit you on the azz on the way out.
Like · Reply · 35 · Aug 6, 2016 12:04pm
Daniel Singer ·
Director of Tax at Intact Financial
I’m sure they’re responsible for more than a third.
Like · Reply · 5 · Aug 6, 2016 12:12pm
Lou Dem ·
1) A state can decide on using whichever currency it sees fit, given the fact that currencies are commodities that are available for sale on the market. In the event of a secession, it would be in Canada’s best interest to convince Quebec of keeping the Canadian dollar, lest the currency suffers a massive devaluation overnight.
2) Quebec already has its own pension plan.
3) While an independent Quebec would have to pick up its share of the debt (22.5 %, not 33.3 %), it would be entitlted to a corresponding share of national assets that were acquired with the debt money. This means infrastructure and military equipment.
Like · Reply · 14 · Aug 6, 2016 1:31pm · Edited
Kasper Witzen ·
It’s Ontario dragging down the Canadian economy these days. Not quebec
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 12:51pm
Nathan Polturak ·
Lou Dem, jactor all the hard assets IN QC then zero out the remaining debts/assets and pay the difference.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 1:29pm
Lou Dem ·
Nathan Polturak Indeed, this is how it should be done. Would you be willing to say that more than 22.5% of Canada’s assets are in Quebec? If the answer is yes, Quebec should pay the difference. If the answer is no, than Canada should pay the difference. Even then, this model is still too simplistic, insofar that it doesn’t take into account which assets were bought with actual money or on a loan.
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 2:22pm · Edited
Don’t forget to pay back the transfer payments.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 2:47pm
Joseph Aspler
Lou Dem Keeping the Canadian dollar – you mean the way Jacques Parizeau would have gambled the entire Caisse de Depot had he cheated his way to victory in 1995, just to support the Canadian dollar. Remember Lou: 400,000+ people and tens of billions of dollars left Quebec because of the Pequistes and the racist Bill 101 (written by the Petainist sympathiser Dr. Camille Laurin). All those billions of dollars would come in very handy to repair Quebec’s crumbling infrastructure. But Toronto thanks you for the gift. Hell, there should be statues of Parizeau, Levesque, and Laurin in downtown Toronto. Those guys were the best thing to ever happen to Ontario’s economy,
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 4:20pm
Al Stone
Lou Dem : Then the aboriginals put in their claim which encompases about 90% of the territory north and south of the Saint Lawrence River. Excepting a strip along the river originally settled by France. Everyone disregards aboriginal clims except the aboriginals. The Mohawk will not go peacefully.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 6:57pm
Lou Dem An independent Quebec would only get what could be negotiated in good faith after all factors are calculated.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:07am
Kasper Witzen There is no question about your comment; Ontario has not done well under the Liberal Party of Ontario.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:10am
Lou Dem ·
Al Stone That is patently fasle. The aboriginal land claims have already been settled in the James Bay and Northerern Quebec Agreement, in which they surrendered their claims for increased autonomy and money.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:59am
Lou Dem ·
Frederick Edwards Indeed, that is the gist of it. In the event of a winning referendum, a secession could only occur after negotiations held in good faith between the Federal Government and Quebec. These negotiations would mostly pertain, in my own opinion, to distribution of assets in relation to the sharing of the national debt, while also taking into account the need for a »bridge » to the east coast (I don’t see Quebec surrendering its access to the US so there could be a co-managed buffer zone tying Ontario to New Brunswick).
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:02am
Hey, actually, the Canada Pension Plan was designed as a replica of the Quebec Pension Plan. The reason you got CPP in the mid-sixties is just because the federal didn’t want QPP to exist. In the end, not only QPP was created anyway, but in negotiations to harmonise the two plans, CPP had to adopt QPP’s model (of having an investment fund in order to boost value), because it was financially more useful.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 8, 2016 10:00am
Alexandre-Xavier Labonté-Lamoureux ·
Works at Sapa Extrusions Lou Dem Most of the infrastructure is in other provinces. Quebec would have no obligations to pay it’s part of the federal debt.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 8, 2016 10:58pm
Patrick André
I am a Canadian and a Québécois, living abroad but still a keen observer of politics in my home country. I am shocked and dismayed by the hateful tone of the comments here. I don’t often read the National Post, but its seems to me the editors should provide guidelines as to what is acceptable language in comments. One post, for example, suggests « to get rid of them » (Quebeckers). Others comments call them lazy (« deadbeats »). That is absolutely disgusting, and racist. Shame on you.
Like · Reply · 34 · Aug 7, 2016 7:19am
Patrick Andre, .. those words quoted by you are quite, mild compared to so many others, Facebook allows way to much accusing on a person’s reputation , and vile words, but have blocked others for so little
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 10:34am
Bret Warick
Québécois is not a race, unless you consider Ontarian a race, Newfoundlander a race, or Yukonite as a race. And if you want to go with this definition, I have first hand experienced *plenty* of racism at the hands of Québécois and Acadians, and have never expressed racism to them. All I wanted to do was purchase a meal or a six pack of beer and was treated like a criminal. For patronizing a business. So I think we can drop this racism thing and just call it what it is – stereotyping and prejudice based on culture, NOT where you were born in Canada. Even Canadian isn’t a race.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 10:58am
Patrick André
From Wikipedia: « Racism and racial discrimination are often used to describe discrimination on an ethnic or cultural basis, independent of whether these differences are described as racial. According to a United Nations convention, there is no distinction between the terms « racial » and « ethnic » discrimination. »
Also, I’m sorry to hear you were ill-treated by the Québécois. I suspect it was probably karma.
Like · Reply · 14 · Aug 7, 2016 1:31pm
Christopher Gunn
Truth hurts we all know. And yes get rid of the parasites. No parameters needed
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 3:25pm
Patrick André
Oh, do we have a Trump supporter? Interesting.
Like · Reply · 6 · Aug 7, 2016 5:39pm
IT & Social Media Manager at Istituto Italiano di Cultura
These comments are unfortunately the sad reality of Canada! Everyone for themselves, no integration, no multiculturalism and no patriotism. These « Canadian dreams » are just on paper. Why then does Quebec have special status in Canada? Trudeau didn’t help, multiculturalism just like democracy looks good on paper. Although it may not be so obvious, racism is rampant…
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 12:17am
There you go, can’t get away from your « racist » rubbish.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 7:07am
Patrick André
Quebec has a special status in Canada, just as Catalonia or the Basque Country have a special status in Spain. The Canadian parliament recognized Quebec as a nation because of its cultural, linguistic and legal heritage, as indeed the First Nations of Canada were also recognized. This does not go against the policy of multiculturalism, it simply recognizes specificities of the French-speaking community. Quebec is by far one of the most socially progressive regions of Canada, and where more people are bilingual / multilingual than elsewhere in Canada. Perhaps you could learn a lesson or two from Quebec, instead of demonizing it.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 8, 2016 8:52am
If Quebeckers / French-Canadians are denied any racial status, it’s so as to legitimise anything that would be considered a racial slur if it targeted any other ethnic group instead.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 8, 2016 10:10am
Bunch of idiots, you and your independence. How the hell would you support yourself and all your social economic if you did not have the Federal Government dumping huge chunk of $$$ in your budget. Eventually as Cameron Doerr said you would bite the dust so fast. Hey!!! you could always join the US since you would be an independent country in Canada. Bloc Québécois you are such morons
Like · Reply · 16 · Aug 6, 2016 1:22pm
They figure they’ll get the version of provincial alimony and suck the rest of Canada dry while they lounge around smoking and drinking wine thinking they’re sophisticated. Crass and corrupt money grubbing parasites.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 1:56pm
Bob Fry ·
Salisbury Composite High School-SAL. COMP
When Alberta contributes over $160 Billion dollars per year to the GNP( 25% ) of the country, Automotive is a distant second at $60 Billion dollars. Don’t’ forget the $200 Billion Dollars in Equalization Transfer payments that Alberta has made, with close to $180 Billion going to Quebec. Alberta would be able to attract major investors once Rachel Notley and her NDP party is gone. So Louise we Albertans are not Idiots, Create the four province Western Separation and we will be very well off. Quebec has raped the West for their Federal Vote. With a new Republic where will Quebec secure their revenues. So in Conclusion our bunch of idiots will be better off than Quebec’s arrogant attitude to the rest of Canada.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 4:03pm
That bunch of Canadian dollars comes for at least the third from the taxes paid by Québécois. This paper is a mere red rag
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 10, 2016 7:09pm
Jeff Sanislo ·
Don’t these dolts realize how much funding the rest of Canada supplies them? Just ask an Albertan……they’ll tell you over and over again how much it is whether you want to hear it anymore or not.
Like · Reply · 21 · Aug 6, 2016 12:57pm
Robert Pariseau ·
Thing is, they think it’s the other way around.
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 3:46pm
Lou Dem ·
9 billions in equalization versus 40 billions in federal taxes. In other words, Quebec pays more federal services than Alberta does.
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 7, 2016 8:04am
All of me wants them gone. They can go to St Pierre and Miqulon Island just off the Quebec coast and its owned by france. Start walking. Ihave listened to their crap my whole life. Their complete takers with no appreciation. Fock off.
Like · Reply · 23 · Aug 6, 2016 12:40pm
They are slowly taking over New Brunswick and there is no end to the undeserved sense of entitlement and demands. Nothing and I mean nothing will ever be » Enough » with the » Francophone Elite » , in my opinion.
Like · Reply · 7 · Aug 6, 2016 1:12pm
Hortense Bleytou ·
Miquelon* 🙂
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 3:59pm
- Gordon LaRusic
Saint Pierre and Miquelon are French territory.. 25 kilometres (16 mi) southwest of Newfoundland…hardly « near » the Quebec coast.
The Magdalen Islands, however do constitute a part of the province of Quebec, though more closely proximate to Cape Breton, NS …and PEI.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 4:56pm · Edited
Et Warr
Correct. French territory- if they’ll ‘have ‘ the bloc..?
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Guy Prémont ·
Go back to England, moron. We would be much better off without you prejudiced people.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 4:39am
Guy Prémont I just still don’t take it, « why » they had gotten that « rewards » or punishment to be sent here in the cold. It wasn’t rainy enough back there? They needed « snow » to be fine? This carceral madland isn’t fit for defeated england refugees… But yet, we keep trying to indulge by financing « endlessly » it seems, there new establishment…
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 1:51pm
So I’m guessing they don’t want any of the sponsorship money from the Federal government or non-francophone industries? BTW if you leave, take Zoolander the PM with you.
Like · Reply · 12 · Aug 6, 2016 1:36pm
Rick Lee ·
Owner/Photographer at Richard J Lee Photography
Well maybe the Block should start sending their own athletes, every Quebec Athlete I have heard speak about the events Mention how proud they are to be a Canadian competing in the games not how proud they are to be traitors to Canada..
Like · Reply · 23 · Aug 6, 2016 12:13pm
That’s because they are coerced into doing so. If they expressed dissent, they would face the consequences, such as being expelled from their association or just not be chosen for future events.
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 8, 2016 10:13am
Rick Lee ·
Owner/Photographer at Richard J Lee Photography
Sure whatever you say Mathieu, keep telling yourself that.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 10:27am
Lou Dem ·
If Quebec had its own team during the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, it would’ve ranked third (three gold, two silver, one bronze) while Canada would’ve ranked 8th (one gold, one silver, one bronze).
Like · Reply · 12 · Aug 6, 2016 1:37pm
Charles Jf Ward ·
Big Deal plus they wouldn’t have had the $$$$ send them anyways if not for Canada plain and simple..
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 3:34pm · Edited
Funny because every Quebec athlete I have ever heard interviewed has said how proud they are to be Canadian, every one!
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 3:58pm
Joseph Aspler
So Lou Den: how come the Bloc Quebecois doesn’t raise and support its own separatist Olympic team? It should be so easy … except that Quebecers on Canada’s Olympic team are proud to be Canadian. How did the Bloc Quebecois do in last year’s Federal election? Oh yeah, they got 19% of the vote in Quebec. Great showing. I guess that bigot Mario Beaulieu has to make noise so that people don’t forget him (or that he drove the Bloc to an even greater loss than ever).
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 5:43pm · Edited
Lou Dem ·
Joseph Aspler Because they are a political party and it’s not within the scope of the activities of a political party to train athletes?
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 7:05am
Lou Dem
Those athletes were financially supported in great part by Quebecers AND the ROC. Take away the ROC financial support (about 80%) and Quebec would have been lucky to buy discount airfares to get 2 athletes to Sochi.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 7:15am
Lou Dem ·
Ric Seabrooke That doesn’t change the fact that Quebec athletes still perform better than their Canadian counterparts. Furthermore, without Canadian support, Quebec could still produce a delegation similar to states of the same size/population (e.g. Norway, Sweden) which I’m sure perform adequately at the Winter Olympics.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 7:40am · Edited
Lou Dem, do you call that bragging rights, ?.who do you think they were sponsored under, well I understood, Canadian athletes were from all Provinces,.. I never seen a Quebec delegation come in during opening ceremonies,,why separate our athletes,. Me thinks , The Canadian Banner tells it all
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:32am
Lou Dem ·
Lorraine Sewards The Olympics (and by extension all sporting events) are all about bragging rights. If people from my nation (notice the use of the word « nation » and not « country ») are doing good, why would I not brag? There really is nothing weird about this. Just take a look at FIFA and you’ll notice that the Scotts, for instance, have their own team.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 8:35am
Lou Dem Why would you just assume Canadian athletes who are from Quebec would not want to compete for Canada, the hubris! Smh, They have no Canadian counterparts, they are Canadian, why is that hard for you to understand, come on now
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 12:05pm · Edited
Charles Jf Ward Stop kidding yourself, this argument like most pro-canada propaganda is BS. Even the poorest countries in the world are able to send athletes to the Olympics and Quebec, juste like Canada, is quite rich when compared to the rest of the world.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 7:47pm
Kathy Yule Jean I think you’re the one who needs a reality check Kathy. Like it or not, close to half of Quebecers don’t even consider themselves »Canadians » at all. Many Quebecers have been wearing the Quebec flag during the Olympics, not to mention the ones who won’t dare do it because of potential repercussions. It’s sad how some people are willing to blind themselves at all cost in order to ignore this fact and ignore our right to exist as a people.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 8:07pm · Edited
ÉTS – École de technologie supérieure
Kathy Yule Jean Gilbert Gélinas, canadian fencing coach, has formed a quebec fencing team.
Like · Reply · Aug 10, 2016 11:45am
If the federal government aupplied the ships and planes, they could separate to France, Belgium and French Africa. Then they would realize what a great country Canada is, and how unimportant their dying language is.
Like · Reply · 8 · Aug 6, 2016 12:54pm
Paul J Elliott ·
Notre langue n’est pas en train de mourir.
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Joseph Aspler
Well Scott, thanks for proving my point that a bigot is a bigot, whether an anglo bigot or a separatist bigot.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 8:56am
Sorry for the cold you got, some cells apparently didn’t made it through…
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Alexandre-Xavier Labonté-Lamoureux ·
Works at Sapa Extrusions
Patrick Lépine Anglos are not made strong…
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 8, 2016 11:01pm
Vous n’aimez pas la France ? Too bad. Vous oubliez que si elle le désire, la France est en mesure de transformer la plupart des villes canadiennes en parkings radioactifs en une demi-heure.
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 7:03pm
Karthik Krishnan ·
Can we stop the Quebec bashing please! You are just helping the cause of the PQ. They are irrelevant even in Quebec as demonstrated by the last provincial election and BQ in the federal election. A third of Canada still lives in Quebec and we must have some respect.
Like · Reply · 9 · Aug 6, 2016 1:55pm
Al Stone
Respect is earned.
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Reg Thiessen ·
Quebec can kiss the whitest part of my behind
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 8:20pm
Jessica L. Scott-Reid ·
Agreed! Stop with the « let them go then » as the majority do not actually want this!
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 9:32pm
Joseph Aspler
Reg Thiessen Well Reg: a bigot is a bigot is a bigot. I say that to you as much as I say it to the Quebec separatists.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 4:14am
Jessica L. Scott-Reid « Stop with the « let them go « »…Really?… lol. I think it’s time to stop patronizing Quebec and start treating them with the same kind of respect that they have for Canada.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 6:26am
Karthik Krishnan: salut, and nicely said. Vive la Canadienne ^_^
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:32am
Lou Dem ·
Thank you for your post Karthik. While I’m not a separatist, the comments I read on these boards don’t particularly make me feel kindly about the ROC and people like you show that there is still hope.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 8:06am
Bret Warick
Absolutely true. The BQ is like some of the rednecks in Alberta (whom also pine for secession) or the Taliban in Afghanistan; they’re just the local extremists that usually have their opinions mired in lies and religion and want to force it on the rest of us. So agreed, don’t take it out on all Quebecers. Many are reasonable people. That being said, I have lived and worked with many Quebecers that have an elitist viewpoint. They will even treat Acadians (east coast Francophones) with disdain. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. The funny thing is if you ever ask those people if they have ever gone to France. and if so how they were treated there. Most will say the French will treat you like crap the second they hear the hint of Joual in your voice.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 10:52am
Christopher Gunn
Whaaaaatever …. If Quebec has a problem let them go already . They have Not contributed to Canada for a very long time.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 3:23pm
No. The more honest you are, the faster we will get out of this monarchic and colonial madhouse!!
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:24pm
Bigots will be bigots, dont bother!
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:42pm
Joseph Aspler
Jérôme Lavoie Indeed Jerome. And a bigot is a bigot, whether it is a stupid anglo or a stupid separatist. I regularly criticize both of them.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:01pm
Steph Carrier
Nah, the pathetic bigots HAVE to hate on Québec to the point where they work against their own interests. That tells you how very intelligent these haters are.
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Joseph Aspler
Steph Carrier Look in the mirror. Or at least look at the meaning of the word « Freudian projection » And it is pretty hard to beat the hatred implicit in Quebec’s racist language law – « shock therapy » against les anglais said the psychiatrist Dr. Camille Laurin, using the language of his profession, The Petainist psychiatrist Dr. Laurin. The guy who was part of the nationalist elite in supprting the « right » of a mass murderer of Jews to stay in Canada.The Dr. Laurin who later « forgot » that he had been part of that elite. It sounds like Dr. Laurin needed some shock therapy of his own. And as billions of dollars left Quebec and Montreal was destroyed as a major financial centre, the Pequistes danced and cheered. And then the nationalists and separatists invented the term Quebec bashing as their immature way of saying « anyone who disagrees with separatism must hate Quebec »
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Jez Muertadel ·
Co-Founder/CEO 1of3 at Underdawgs
Reg Thiessen You do realize that your profile picture is displaying a French flag which is the origin of our culture …. ( Quebeckers).
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 10:36am
Jez Muertadel ·
Co-Founder/CEO 1of3 at Underdawgs
Christopher Gunn we do not contribute to Canada ? Please provide fact, proof, anything that support your argument…
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 10:39am
Christopher Gunn
Oh no please I insist. Go ahead and tell me how many Billions thats a B for Billion dollars has Quebec shared with the west ?? Or any other province that they havent hijacked from Canadian Taxpayers. How about the hydro dam that royalities that belong to the far east? Hmmm . Whatelse you say??? Im sure i am missing a few hundred more and someone reading will help me with uour argument
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 5:15pm
Jean-François Martin
Bigots gonna Bigots
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 4:19pm
The PQ and BQ; Canada’s drunk conspiracy theorist uncle at the thanksgiving dinner table railing on about the good old days and spilling brandy on you.
Like · Reply · 11 · Aug 6, 2016 12:49pm
Bret Warick
Oh no! Not the good brandy!
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 10:53am
Chef at Resto.Lounge Le d’Hélice
The sadness here, is that most of you sound like a bunch of racists! You dont see that there’s almost half of us who just want to shut them up for good. Like in any group, you focuss on the loudest and dumber. Remember that in the referendum, half dont want to seperate, and even if they win, winning with one percent is absurd. The main problem is with either if the liberal or the bloc are in place, we are stuck with thiefs and loser. And on the other part, all i can see is all kind of union worker trying to sqeeze what’s left of the economy and protecting the lazy. We are bless with great ress…See More
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 8:31am · Edited
David Rouette…too bad your ending has to be about poor you, you seem educated, and then complain you have not been able to exerise your birth language, well why not,?…. Canada has two official languages, then your final words are , if you feel the need to insult you,…makes me think you are living in Quebec , especially your posted place of employment
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 8:40am
Teri Cole ·
David, I’m not sure that the term ‘rascist’ applies here. It is a debate about nationality not race. But your points are well taken.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 8:42am
Chef at Resto.Lounge Le d’Hélice
Lorraine Sewards its more about the fact that in a previous post, spme people start to insult me on my grammar because they saw i was obviously french quebecer, instead of arguing in a proper manner. And im not saying im not able to exercice my birth language, wich is french, im saying that even if english is not my birth language, i have the respect to communicate in english instead of forcing everybody to speak my language. It’s not about poor me, it’s more about « let’s all try to make effort » instead of taking down the other about some detail
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 7, 2016 9:09am
David Rouette …not trying to take down anyone, your post was confusing, go back and read it, you spoke of not being able to exercise your birth language often,… living in Quebec,..that was the confusing part
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 10:30am
Bret Warick
Québécois is not a race, unless you consider Ontarian a race, Newfoundlander a race, or Yukonite as a race. And if you want to go with this definition, I have first hand experienced *plenty* of racism at the hands of Québécois and Acadians, and have never expressed racism to them. All I wanted to do was purchase a meal or a six pack of beer and was treated like a criminal. For patronizing a business. So I think we can drop this racism thing and just call it what it is – stereotyping and prejudice based on culture, NOT where you were born in Canada. Even Canadian isn’t a race.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 10:59am
Chef at Resto.Lounge Le d’Hélice
Its going in circle… Lorraine, i wasn’t talking about you, but talking about what happn in a previous post, and you too, read my sentence, maybe its the way i talk and iva try to translate it the same way, but there was some pontuation in my sentence, but i think i have rectified it when i’ve reply, Bret, i agree with you, i wqnted to say it was « like » racism. Sometime differencies, leading to stereotyping like you said, is the same , to me, as race leading to racism, it was an analogy from my part. And im sorry how tou’ve been treat, but in a way i smile because it remind me an anecdote…See More
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 4:21pm
Chef at Resto.Lounge Le d’Hélice
An open mind to open the other
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 4:23pm
Why Canadians keep voting for Quebec Prime Ministers – and yeah I know Elbows LeSelfie was born in Ottawa – is beyond me! You can’t possibly complain about that place while voting for one of them to lead the federal government! Far too many Canadian voters are absolute idiots!
Like · Reply · 7 · Aug 7, 2016 8:01am · Edited
Jeff Sanislo ·
You vote for your local MP, that’s it.
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 12:55pm
Jeff Sanislo if you honestly think that and do that, that’s fine. I beg to differ, especially with the last election. The Liberal Party of Canada marketed a name and a brand while literally demonizing Harper.
Like · Reply · 5 · Aug 6, 2016 1:00pm
Operations Manager at Valet Pros
Yeah, but Harper did suck
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 1:13pm
Geoff Dubs . post facts please, I shall wait.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 2:29pm
Geoff Dubs did he suck more than corrupt Chretin, corrupt Mulroney, millionaire Martin, lying country destroying PET? Nope. And nobody sucks more than Selfie, in more ways than one – not that there’s anything wrong with that.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 6, 2016 3:57pm · Edited
Joseph Aspler
Ah, a great believer in democracy, I see. « The vast majority of Canadian voters are absolute idiots! » You are so much smarter than the rest of us, I see. By the way … you do realize that Pierre Trudeau was warning about the separatist threat more than 50 years ago, long before he entered his politics? Or that Justin destroyed the Bloc Quebecois, who got a massive 19% of the vote in last year’s federal electino.
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 7:51pm
Joseph Aspler I wrote voters, not people. The distinction is that very many seem to lose the ability to think for themselves and let the campaign rhetoric, ads, signs, and branding decide for them. So I’m smarter than the 39% who voted for someone because of their last name, which no doubt includes you. deep down, party politics is anti-democractic as its goal is power. But you’re a Liberal and you feel that you’re entitled to that power. And if you’re a Quebecer, doubly so.
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Teri Cole ·
Geoff Dubs Let’s give Trudashian more time before any comparisons with the previous PM. He has many more pride parades to attend while steering the economy into the ditch.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 8:39am
Joseph Aspler
Mickey Finn Thanks for proving my point about your contempt for democracy and your fellow voters. « But you’re a Liberal and you feel that you’re entitled to that power. And if you’re a Quebecer, doubly so. » I call out separatist bigots when I see them, and I do the same to anglo bigots. Like you. My uncle is buried with the rest of his crew from the French-Canadian Alouette Squadron; the anglophone Jew from Montreal beside a Protestant from Alberta and French-Canadian Catholics from Ottawa, Montreal, and Quebec City. So you see, Mckey, my family stopped taking racist bulls**t from anglo bigots and from separatist bigots a very long time ago.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 1:19pm
Joseph Aspler tell that to your PM who declared that Quebecers are better. I claim equality with them, but it is many of them who claim superiority of culture and language and history. I had a very French Quebec grandmother. And yeah, you’re the only one who has dead relatives from war. You prove my point yet again as you sit upon your righteous high chair preaching and finger-waving.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 1:44pm
Joseph Aspler
Mickey Finn « And yeah, you’re the only one who has dead relatives from war. » But I’m not the one insulting the great majority of Quebec people who said no to the separatists …. you are.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 5:05pm · Edited
« many of them who claim superiority of culture and language and history » Quebec sovereignists do not claim that at all. They simply claim to be different.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:23pm · Edited
Jenny Baguette then why can they not live with us in the same country? Who talks of Pur Laine? Why do they need liberty? Are they oppressed? And Joseph Aspler, why is the separtist % always, at least, hovering around 30+ points? Even in Hull, excuse me, Gatineau, where so very many are employed by the federal government? Why the huge support for sign laws and language laws? Believe me, I would rather be wrong about being insulting and have it not be the case. No problems with that. I just don’t see it or hear like that.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 2:57am
I’m at the point where I say, « Let them go », but all Québécois working outside the province loses their job, we stop transfer payments immediately, no more construction contracts awarded to Quebec firms, they create their own currency, etc. Just think of the money we’d save on stopping bilingualism in Ontario!
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 4:42am · Edited
Shaena Dean ·
A critic with some taste and decency. at Theology and Geometry
Quebec separatists: endlessly self absorbed, delusional, offensive, tiresome insulting jerks to the country they live in, funded by Canada. It’s like paying someone to throw beer in your face and shriek that you are garbage, before they demand that you pay for the beer too. Also, they scream they they want nothing to do with you, but then demand a ride home because you ‘owe them’ and they ‘deserve it’.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 12:14am · Edited
IT Tech at Self-Employed IT tech
thx you so much for the love
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 6:16am
We also worship Satan while scarifying babies. You should visit us and try, it’s fun. On each Canada day, we sacrifice a beaver, it is a tradition here. You can search on Google Image to see it.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 8:45pm
Shaena Dean ·
A critic with some taste and decency. at Theology and Geometry
Marc-Antoine Daneau I live here, I am acutely aware of what it is like, from the shameless corruption, apalling fraud, the whitewashed french vs les autres retelling of history in schools, to the unrelenting bigotry against everyone not pur laine- especially among the bloated bureaucrat set with their cash stuffed bribes and habit of losing the paperwork of anglos. Oh right, and on Canada day, it was for years the only legal time to change your lease, forcing everyone to ignore the holiday and move instead, and I notice all the signs and ads around town celebrate ‘moving day’ and pretend Canada doesn’t really exist.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:13pm · Edited
Shaena Dean It seem to be a terrible place to live, why don’t you leave?
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 8, 2016 5:47am
Can I send you money? Do you have enough food?
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 8, 2016 2:07pm · Edited
Ghislain Laplante ·
École Secondaire Monseigneur Richard
Le Canada a été fondé par les canadiens-francais. Je dis ça de même madame Shaena Dean.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 8, 2016 11:02am
Ghislain Laplante shhhuuutt!!! She’s not yet aware that we paid for her diapers!
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 2:02pm
Unfortunately, at this stage in the on-going dissolution of the Canadian nation through mass multicultural immigration, any expression of nationalistic fervour or desire is welcome in the hope that it will ripple out across the country and spur Anglos to adopt a similar sentiment towards their own country and stop being herded out of their major urban centers in docile submission by Asians and Africans. Quebeckers have obviously not given up on their country as much as Anglos have given up on theirs.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 4:25pm
Steph Carrier
You make a very valid point. There are 2 visions of nationalism at play here. Canadian nationalism is the kind where everyone has to sacrifice for the well-being of the STATE, some having to sacrifice more than others. Québécois nationalism sacrifices the state for the well-being of its people. The 2 are obviously not compatible. The whole Énergie Est pipeline ordeal is a great demonstration of that. When BC and the US refused the pipeline, « no » was accepted as an answer. But when Québec refused it, suddenly it became an assault on « Canadian unity » and they didn’t (still don’t) take « no » as an answer. And that’s the thing I don’t understand. Anglophones in Québec are in the same boat as the francophones so they really should be on the same « nationalist » side when defending against such attempts to sacrifice their well-being. But they are not.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 8, 2016 1:12am
Kévin Paré ·
Adminitrative assistant & divers at The Source / La Source Newspaper
The comments sections here… Does anyone realise that the bloc is almost gone? Even bringing back Duceppe was not enough to save them from irrelevancy, they got 10 seats and 19% of the provincial votes. This is just some desperate action to wake up some potential dreams in that population. « Give them their share of the debts? » for something that 80% to 68% of Quebec does not agree on? The discrepancy depends on how you frame the question… Still, the separation of Quebec will not happen, look at the support for independence per age group. The younger the people are, the less they are for… It does not mean they are happy with the constitutional situation, keeping the current constitutional order is about as popular as the Bloc.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 7:37am
IT Tech at Self-Employed IT tech
sure they are busy playing pokemon . like a bunch of zombie
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 7:45am
Lou Dem ·
Frank Gagné Easy to attack the younger generations while our parents are busy watching TVA, Le Banquier, Star Académie or voting for le PLQ.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 7, 2016 8:08am
IT Tech at Self-Employed IT tech
Lou Dem its too late for our parent generation a long time ago
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:06am
Works at Free lance tutoring and university lecturing
Why do the québécois want to leave a bilingual country? We’d like you to stay and share in our beautiful country. But I think all Canadians will refuse to pay welfare payments to québécois should they leave confederation. It’s convenient to eat your cake and still have it too. Let’s be realistic.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 10:02pm · Edited
Lou Dem ·
Hardly bilingual. The Federal Government provides services in both official languages. That’s the extent of Canadian bilingualism.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 8:10am
Ghislain Laplante ·
École Secondaire Monseigneur Richard
Bilingual? Come on. Look on statistic Canada and you’ll see who’s bilingual and who’s not. Hint: the roc is not.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 8, 2016 11:02am
Maxime Clermont ·
UQTR – Université du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Wow, so much love for us down here, no wonder why 40% of us think about leaving.
But no, there is no such thing as Quebec bashing right? The great canadians and their respect of every culture. You come from an other part of the world and you’re proud of your culture and of who you are, great! You’re quebecer and you’re proud of your culture and of who ou are then stfu! We conquered you and you have nothing to say! eh?
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 8:30pm · Edited
Take a look how you treat anglos and minorities, then apologize.
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 4:11am
Maxime Clermont ·
UQTR – Université du Québec à Trois-Rivières
Bruce Stanley
First of all, you did not adress the problem. You went directly into accusation without answering. Whether quebecers mistreat it’s minorities or not (we don’t) doesn’t answer it at all.
But what should we apologize for?
Being the province with the greater bilangual proportion of all Canada?
That the angloquebecers have the most funded healthcare and school system for the size of their population in Canada?
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 8, 2016 9:25pm · Edited
Patrick André
Bruce: Francophones outside Quebec can only dream of having the support and institutions that Anglos enjoy in Quebec: schools, hospitals, universities… Don’t get me wrong, I am a supporter of minority rights. But when over 50% of Francophones in the ROC don’t have access to schools in their own OFFICIAL language, you should think about them, as well.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 9, 2016 8:22am
Bruce Stanley : then we are stronger than we think ! Good news !
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 7:12pm
Benoît Tremblay ·
About that transfer money from the Federal
What they argue about this is that we send a lot of money to the fed and they spend it how THEY think is best. By keeping all of the money, WE would decide what we do with it and we wouldn’t need to transfers because we’d cut on things we don’t want to spend on but that the federal forced us to.
That’s their argument. But the way I see it is that they’re really bad at deciding what they do with what we have and so getting full control would probably be a recipe for disaster sooner than later.
Please though people, keep it civilized and remember that it’s an ever diminishing MINORITY of people in Québec who want to seperate. Don’t put us all in the same bag
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This was a joke that was said the last time Quebec wanted to separate about buying canadian tire to have their own currency. I know people in quebec I did not mean any harm. It wouldn’t be smart to separate, it never is.
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7,8 billions in equalization payments is close to 2% of the quebec gross domestic product.. And the actual budget in Quebec is balanced (we have 3,4 billions in over with le fond des générations annual payments included). 7,8 billions when your GDP is around 360 billions and when you have 3,4 billions in over it is not really hard to find in my opinion. The public finances was worst in the 90s and we have passed over it. Quebeckers have many defaults but they are REALLY resilients. So, if it is your principal argument when you say Quebec cannot be separated from Canada, this is weak :p.
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Stephen Thompson ·
Photographer at Stephen Thompson Photo
Come on people…let’s remember that Quebecers have rejected separatism twice…One wonders what the result would be if another province were put to the test…These folks are living a dying dream; ‘money and the ethnic vote’ have been solidly joined by the majority. Hey, there’s Canadian flags flying everywhere in the regions, come have a look!
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 5:54am
Earl of March Secondary School
Separatism continues to be « low » on the political scale in le belle province – right now. And I don’t see things changing very fast – for years and years. In today’s world of the Internet, voters in Quebec – and its young people – are looking far outward, not far inward. They see more and more of what is going right and wrong than they did thirty forty years ago when nationalism and was at its « hottest. » Unless there is economic turmoil, the separatists will be an unhappy bunch for many years to come.
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Earl of March Secondary School
I said « LE » belle province rather than « LA » belle province. I know that some reader will notice it and say, « you got that wrong buddy. »
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IT Tech at Self-Employed IT tech
Luke Fisher Dont worry about that , its not like we ask you to speak french or a second language. but thx anyway it could be seen as a sign or respect ( if it exist)
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Earl of March Secondary School
Frank Gagné I live within sight of the province.
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Moied Khan ·
Loss Prevention Officer Trainer at GardaWorld
I would luv to see Qubec divide them selves from us Canadians. That is when they will relize how destabilize they will be and how quickly their money will dry out. It will be a very big hit to thier economy. Then maybe this long disputed question will be put to rest. How can you even consider to divide a amazing country like our Canada.
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Jessica L. Scott-Reid ·
The majority don’t actually want to. It’s just these nuts.
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Steph Carrier
Are you blind? Read the comments here.
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ÉTS – École de technologie supérieure
Our economy would be better off. We would decide in our own interests. Stop the paranoia and the fear arguments.
Like · Reply · Aug 10, 2016 12:00pm
The economic argument doesn’t work anymore. Québec city has the lowest rate of unemployement in Canada. We have high tecnology like Bombardier (CS-1000), CGI, Beenox and bib Hydro Québec. So Canada dont play again the bogeyman with fear arguments.
Like · Reply · Aug 11, 2016 12:29pm
A couple of years ago I was having breakfast at a small town in Montana and a few people were discussing getting rid of Pennsylvania – I offered them Quebec in exchange but they cringed in horror noting that they would rather keep Pennsylvania thank you very much.
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Earl of March Secondary School
I forgot to put this into my comment.
If Quebec does ever separate, how many refugees will we see fleeing the province and its instability? We could see them crossing bridges into the nation’s capital from western Quebec.
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IT Tech at Self-Employed IT tech
Or its could be the other way around , you cannot predict the future , after all its goes so well in alberta and and in ontario …..
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Earl of March Secondary School
Frank Gagné I was trying to be lighthearted.
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Lou Dem ·
It would be very hard for the majority of people to do that. In the event of a winning referendum, the housing market would freeze and people would not move out if they can’t convert their assets into cash first.
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Ha ….every Olympics for the last 40 years …the PQ and Bloc has posted the type of remark …this video only shows how running on empty they are…..unless they are now going after the senior Olympic Games, because that is were most of their supporters now are
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Yves Marineau ·
Secrétaire générale et fondateur at Movement for True Global Democraty
There is so much hatred in the comments of Anglo Canadian newspapers about Quebec!
Staying in Canada is a kind of masochism for them.
Just for that reason Quebec should separate!
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It seems many in here have conditionned themselves into believing systematic hatred of Quebec and the québécois in general isn’t racism.
It is. You are bigots.
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 7, 2016 7:15pm
Actually your hatred for Anglos their language and Jews, makes Quebec the Canadian base for racists.
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Jez Muertadel ·
Co-Founder/CEO 1of3 at Underdawgs
Bruce Stanley You should come to my house for a holidays/vacation. You would see how it is here, we don’t have/feels hate against Anglos nor Jews. You would have a great time, eat amazing meals and make new friends. I think you would benefit from this.
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Bruce Stanley
I harbour no hatred whatsoever for anyone, including English-speaking folks or Jews (wtf?..). Most of them are great people, just like most of everyone else.
You wouldn’t want Canada incorporated into the US as a 51th state, I would assume? That does not mean you hate Americans.
Quite frankly, your prejudices are what’s making it clear who is the bigot here.
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Marlene Burton ·
Timmins District School of Nursing
Who financed this gal’s journey to the Olympics? IMO……from this point on, all participants from Quebec who are not financed by the Parti Quebecois, should only be allowed to have CANADIAN insignia’s on their outfits.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 4:20pm
« Who financed this gal’s journey to the Olympics? »
If you meant to say « Canadian tax payers », you’d do well to remember that Quebec people also pay taxes, which also helps other Canadian athletes.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 7:24pm
Jenny Baguette We return all of the federal taxes you pay PLUS 3 to 8 billion a year. You pay for nothing and haven’t contribute to Canada since 1956.,.
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Jez Muertadel ·
Co-Founder/CEO 1of3 at Underdawgs
Bruce Stanley please provide fact.
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Stephen Riby ·
Well……you have to admit the BQ deserves an A+ for persistence. It would appear they have yet to realize demographics has nullified any chance they will ever have of realizing the « dream »! Now they resort to fantasies.
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Michel Allaire ·
Much about nothing here again…what do you expect from the BQ…I don’t think it represents much of what most Quebecers really think and it sure the hell doesn’t speak for me. Sorry to break it to you guys but it’s possible to be Quebecer and be madly in love with this country. We pay way too much attention to these no good politicians and not enough to ordinary folks…
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:38pm
Alex Nikolov
If you want to claim french values movie to st.pierre or hey talk to Denmark they have lots of land really close by. Short of that pure magnificent maniacal idea. All it does is expose regular folks to hatred. It creates division where none should be. What are we trying for? City states next? Useless
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 4:45pm
Quebec, please go! In the meantime I hope this girl’s funding is not coming from any Canadian organization and someone should bring her up short on who she represents…..Canada! not the Province.
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Et Warr
Sad, how the political demagogue’s keep trying to make a big splash of self attention, in their own little puddle of ‘pig wine,’ and how many will keep
giving them the attention they seem to crave.
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Roxanne BP ·
Game Designer at Ubisoft Montreal Studio
Thanks for being a bunch of racists who put all quebeckers in the same basket because the Bloc did something. Really makes us appreciate living in that country.
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Well, here’s an idea, contribute to Canada for a change (haven’t since 1956) stop electing separatists, stop discriminating against anglos and the English language and PLEASE stop whining.
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Jez Muertadel ·
Co-Founder/CEO 1of3 at Underdawgs
Bruce Stanley you can’t ask someone to stop whining if you’re whining…And again, please, provide fact.
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Peter Renaud
I’m pretty sure there are a lot more people advocating the breakup of Canada in other provinces, than there are actual separatists in Quebec. Grow up people and do some research on how the federation works instead of spouting crap in facebook.
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Tim Myrfield ·
Works at Self-Employed
Leave or shut the duck up already. Personally i would prefer you stay and start contributing to the nation that is canada. If you cannot do that then just leave we’ll be fine without you.
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 3:26pm
Right. The Bloc Q are all too happy to constantly « suck-in » Federal transfer payments and also grab additional FEDERAL Tax $$ to train the athletes and then unabashedly promote Quebec sovereignty / independence. They try to suck and blow at the same. What political hogwash!
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 2:02pm
This woman and any other Canadian athlete who shows off the Quebec PROVINCIAL flag, should be stripped of any funding and barred from participating as an athlete for Canada!!! Shame on you!
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 3:56am
Martin Alarie
What about Catriona Lemay-Doan with her Saskatchewan flag when she won the gold medal in speed skating in Nagano in 1998 ?
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Andy Taylor ·
Works at DND
All the Feds would have to do is not send out the cheques in time. Just hold all Cheques or money transfers for one week. See how they would feel when they realized where the money was coming from.
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Lou Dem ·
You do realize that, as a Federal Government employee, your code of ethics prevents you from saying things like that on a public forum right?
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 7, 2016 8:15am
Lou Dem : Andy Taylor a Federal bureaucrat? Interesting…
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Andy Taylor ·
Works at DND
Lou Dem Make that worked at DND. Been retired for more than 5 yrs so can say what the hell I want. Want to change anyones mind starve them of what they want the most and see what happens. Turn off the tap the money tap that is not forever but just long enough to make it clear Quebec needs the rest of Canada more than the rest of Canada needs Quebec. The Separatist epicentre at the U of Laval would go berserk.
Like · Reply · Aug 10, 2016 2:31pm
booooo it’s no wonder they people of Canada feel they should separate .. »the sooner » the better » they would have to work on their own and i’m sure they would starve without the handouts from the rest of Canada. Be gone
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Lou Dem ·
The »handouts » are worth less than the amount of taxes the province pays to the federal government. 10 billions in equalization, 40 billions in taxes.
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Diane Thompson
How, exactly were the Québec athletes funded for their trip to Rio? Who supports them while they are training? Who supplies the training facilities? I’d suggest it’s the CANADIAN taxpayer! If the Québec athletes want to go it alone, let them!!
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 12:54pm
Lou Dem ·
You do realize that a) Canadian taxpayers include Quebec taxpayers and that b) Canada has no hopes of getting medals without Quebec athletes?
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Diane Thompson
Lou Dem You do realize that billions of dollars in « equalizaiton » payments flow from the rest of Canada into the Québec coffers so Olympic funding from Québec is « unequal » to what other provinces are providing. Québec is just giving back some of the blackmail money they’ve received by threatening to leave Canada. Olympic medals, IMHO, do little to enhance Canada in any way at all, so Québec’s contribution on that front is negligible!!
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Diane Thompson
At the moment, Lou Dem, Canada has one bronze medal, having placed 3rd in a swim relay. Provinces of origin of the swimmers: Penny Olesiak — Ontario; Chantal Von Landegham — Manitoba; Taylor Ruck — British Columbia; Sandrine Manville — Québec. Manville has said, on record, that she had to move out of Québec in order to have the opportunity to train if she wanted to make the Olympic team. So, once again, Québec relies on the rest of Canada to reach a goal!!
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:54am
Jim McEachern ·
Just Ignore the Bloc they are irrelevant and just like to stir things up and get the racists going. Their day is long done!
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Works at Retired from teaching
Are the Bloc funding these Rio Quebec competitors????? The Bloc is always piggybacking on the back of Canada like leeches. Canadians are sick and tired of the Bloc’s fantasy dream.
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ÉTS – École de technologie supérieure
12 non-sovereign nations have the right to participate in the olympics. Quebec is a nation recognized by two international sports federations: Inter-Crosse and ball hockey. This is very important in law because it gives a precedent we can build on.
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They don’t want to separate completely. They want to have a country within our country so that they could have our services like any Canadian. Sovereign association.
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Works at Canadian Intellectual Property Office (CIPO)
With TROC picking up the tab, right?
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Patrick Rafferty
Quebec won’t be calling the shots. It’s up to the ROC to provide to an independent Quebec what will and will not be tolerated, funded and supported. My hunch? Very little, if any.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 7:19am
Steph Carrier
That idea is long dead my friend.
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David Watson ·
They pull this stunt every time a Quebec based athlete wins. I just ignore them. The are so desperate for attention that they make fools of themselves.
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Lou Dem ·
You mean every time a Canadian athlete wins lol.
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 7, 2016 8:18am
Separatists are a minority…..huge equalization transfer payments are a reality…..there is not, nor has been a prime minister with enough backbone to stand up and tell Quebec that enough is enough both must stop NOW
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 4:37am
Mario Beaulieu Is a « gros teton ». That’s why he’s not the leader anymore. I’m surprised, considering his incompetence, that the Bloc has a role for him at all!
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Sean Hulambaker ·
BYE!!!!! Just make sure to pay back every dime you have received from the Feds to pay for your lavish, unmaintainable social programs! 🙂
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Peter Renaud
They have only 10 seats in rural Quebec. They certainly do not represent the feelings or aspirations of Quebecers! Ignore the Bloc and they’ll go away. Long live a united, strong Canada!
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 9:54am
ÉTS – École de technologie supérieure
30 non-sovereign nations just like Quebec have their own national teams. Iroquois nation have their own LaCrosse teams and play against Canada in the World Championship. Whats the problem?
Like · Reply · Aug 10, 2016 12:03pm
Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! If you live in Quebec, and you win medals, you win for 🍁Canada🍁 first, then you celebrate your province! Quebec is not a country, Quebec did not pay to sent these athletes to Rio, their coaches are Canadian, funding came from all of Canada!
🍁🍁🍁Go Canada🍁🍁🍁
Like · Reply · 8 · Aug 6, 2016 12:31pm
So well said
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Thank you Louise.
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Président seul actionnaire at Distribution U-NIC INC.
Get over it. Quebec is going to be independant and prosper it’s own way, much better than Canada would do if it leaves. By the way Québec has not signed the Canadian constitution and is still paying 53 billions a year to keep this (federation) alive. Besides using it’s 50 + billions it could at least profit from the St-Laurent and collect excise taxes for all imports from Canada or any pipeline passing through it’s land. Iceland is a much smaller country with much less resources and being independant makes them one of the best places in the world to live in…
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 7:50pm
I say let them separate in about ten years after they have paid back the rest of CANADA. Next year is a big year for their electricity and we should get PAID
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Ted David Burrell
Obviously the BQ failed to heed Wayne Gretzky’s logic about the 1980 & 1984 reciprocal Olympic boycotts, demeaning the medals and the Games.
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 2:55pm
Stupid people let them make it on their own, always a thorn in Canada side.Sink hole for taxpayers money, a bunch of whiners.
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Kenneth Eastman ·
Their they go smoking something and having a pipe dream again nice try bloc but why make the games a political issue for something that will never happen
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Alexandre Cote ·
It’s funny to see so many people calling quebecers « them » and beeing surprised that « they » don’t want to be part of « us »…
Like · Reply · Aug 10, 2016 9:10am
They deserve to be free from the rest of us oppressing them and holding them back, and as a sign of good faith we will give them our PM as a parting gift.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 8:45pm
ÉTS – École de technologie supérieure
Wanting Quebec teams has nothing to do with performance or rankings. We love our nation and we are quebecois before and beyond anything else. Many federalists from Quebec wish we had our own national teams so it’s not a «dirty seperatist» thing.
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Juan De Chile ·
Hipster Barista at Fake Starbucks
Is this not the same reason we moved the former Quebecois into the southern states? Because they threaten treason to our sovereignty?
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Paper Deliverer at The Oshawa Express
Honestly if they want to separate let them separate. At least Trudeau won’t be a Canadian anymore. In fact now that you mention that separating sounds like a splendid idea !
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He was born in Ottawa
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Paper Deliverer at The Oshawa Express
And he lives in Quebec ! His family is from Quebec and the only reason he was born in Ottawa is because his dad was living their as pm. So unless he moved from Quebec he would not be living in the same country as me if Quebec separated and that’s just fine by me. Personally I would prefer not being on the same planet as that incompetent princess clown ! 1,200 job lost mostly in Ontario alberta is in a mess and NOT because of low oil prices because Saskatchewan is doing very well with creating jobs with low oil prices and their economy is less diverse than alberta ! The problem is bad ideas brought to you by Trudeau, Wynne and Not have a clue ley.
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Joseph Aspler
You do realize that under Justin’s leadership, the Bloc won a massive 19% of the popular vote in Quebec last year ?
And I hope you realize that it was the Tory Brian Mulroney who brought the Bloc founders to Ottawa in the first place.
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 5:40pm
Owner Operator at Ray Hatherell & Associates
And are these teams not partly financed with CANADIAN money!!
Like · Reply · 9 · Aug 6, 2016 11:40am
The whole fkin province is financed with Canadian money…
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Jez Muertadel ·
Co-Founder/CEO 1of3 at Underdawgs
Frederick Hollinger please provide facts
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Shawn Connelly
When Quebec decides to stop taking tax dollars from all Canadians, to support « their » athletes, then they can brag about exclusive victories.
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Cheryl El ·
Did she receive any moola from the Feds to get her to the place of victory ? If so stop whining, cause you can’t have it both ways.
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Works at Canadian Intellectual Property Office (CIPO)
When is the BS going to stop ? I’m 61 years of age and I’m sick of it and those who promote it. Make me king for the day and I would make sure that those in Quebec who constantly promote this stuff get their wish, now and forever, and would most likely be made a national hero, in my country, Canada, for it !
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Commissaire à l’assermentation at Province De Québec
Insulting and demeaning to the Athletes of Québec who are proud to compete under the Canadian Banner. Our athletes want nothing to do with your god awful project.
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Kevin De Andrade ·
The NP gives disproprtionate attention to this small, dying party.
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Victoria Cross ·
It`s to get our minds off our plunging dollar, and poor economic outlook, but not enough to replace the NPs love affair with WP for Hilary Clinton..
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BCIT: British Columbia Institute of Technology
The whole thing is a gangster op as cover for OC ops in Quebec and Ontario. No one I ever met wants Quebec to be anything but Canadian.
Stupid gangsters. Stuck in the 80’s.
😦
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Frédérick Potvin ·
Vive le Québec libre ! Mon pays c’est le Québec, not your failure of a country called Canada, with no unity, culture or common sense. Conservatives fucktards.
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Joseph Aspler
My, you’re a little racist, Frederick, aren’t you. Sorry Fred – the Bloc Quebecois got 19% of the vote in the last federal election. Live with it. The PQ got 25% of the vote in the last provincial election I remember a question that I asked you a few days ago: I asked why the great majority of French-Canadian veterans voted NO in 1980 and 1995.Here’s your reply » « Or maybe because soldiers aren’t usually well educated ? Insecurity and fear, that quite legit… » »
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Frédérick Potvin ·
Racist ? I never said anything about races. I said that Canada has no culture. Don’t try to put words in my mouth. And I’m sorry but the separatist movement is well alive in Québec. We will get our independance, like every country in the world.
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Joseph Aspler
Frédérick Potvin « not your failure of a country called Canada, with no unity, culture or common sense » Not racist ? Well, it’s petty and stupid of you, seeing as Canada always places in the top 10 list of countries in the world for peace, prosperity, and government dependabilty.And I see you at least haven’t repeated your elitist, arrogant insult against French-Canadian veterans of World War II.Remember the de Bernonville case ? The nationalist and separatist elite supported the « right » of a Vichy war criminal and mass murderer to stay in Canada. Like the Petainist St Camille Laurin ; magically rehabilitated into a progressive.Your « not well-educated » French Canadian veterans? They’re the same ones who supported the government of Louis St Laurent in trying to send the mass murderer de Bernonville back to France.
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Jeff Young
The sooner, the better.Vive le Quebec libre!!!! (110% libre)
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Works at Canadian Intellectual Property Office (CIPO)
If only!
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Jeff Young
Michael Thomas Paquette I’m willing to make a substantial donation toward the cause, let me know when ready to go and stay gone.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 3:35pm
The Bloc Quebecois is like that uncle at the family reunion that everyone knows is illiterate but smiles and just pretends they’re not. Tedious.
Like · Reply · 19 · Aug 6, 2016 11:38am
Wish they would just leave nstead of keep threatening to.
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Lori Grondin ·
Chief cook and bottle washer at Domestic engineer
You do realize that it is only a small faction of Quebecers who want to leave right ? The larger majority of people living in Quebec are very happy being part of Canada. You bias and bigotry is showing in your uneducated comment
Like · Reply · 5 · Aug 6, 2016 11:47am
Brad Lee
Lori Grondin That « small minority » has put separatists in power provincially and with strong representation federally more than once.
Like · Reply · 9 · Aug 6, 2016 11:53am
a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions. This would be you correct
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Lori Grondin what Brad Lee said.
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Shit disturber at Political critic
Why is it, when someone has a different opinion they are automatically labelled a bigot with no education.
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Victoria Cross ·
Lori Grondin Like the people of Scotland ? After Michael Ignatieff and Pauline Marois helped them with the referendum they lost and the rest of Britain granted their wish, most of people who had demanded to leave now say, they wanted to remain European ! And are being forced out against their will. Iggy and Pauline didn`t tell them if they separated they would not be granted statehood by Europe
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Brad Lee You do know that support for separation is about 28% and dying as all the unilingual Francrophone old men die off, and that was under Peladeau.
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Brad Lee
Kathy Yule Jean You know that the separatist party only got kicked out of provincial power last election, right ?
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Mel Sims
Brad Lee But they weren’t talking about separatism when elected, and were leading until PKP came in and pushed the separatist agenda. That’s why they lost. Many federalist Quebecers will vote BQ when they sicken of Liberals, but not because they want to separate.
Like · Reply · Aug 7, 2016 4:36pm
Seemingly, you confuse the BQ and PQ.
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Peter Shaw
We need to cut off every penny the ROC sends to these ungrateful, arrogant parasites.
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President (title) at David Basskin Consulting Inc.
You wuss. Why aren’t you calling for saturation bombing ? Or are you a false flag-waving SECRET SYMPATHIZER ?
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 12:20pm
David Basskin you’re retard medal is in the mail.
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Kasper Witzen ·
Mickey Finn your*
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Do Quebecois know that with out Canada .They are nothing
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Steph Carrier
Do retards know that this kind of paternalistic, supremacist comment is a big part of the reason why separatists want to separate ?
Like · Reply · Aug 8, 2016 1:44am
If Quebec want’s to separate, I encourage them to find their own path… at their own expense, of course.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 7, 2016 6:30am
Bill Patton
Here we go again feeding oats to a dead horse .shut up you parasite separatists.
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 12:15pm
Folks, we need to build a wall, and let me tell you–Quebec is going to PAY for the wall.
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Works at Retired
I don’t agree with them doing this, they can’t afford to separate & I really think the majority do not want to
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Lori Mackey
I hope you are right but sometimes I’d like to call their bluff. It is a slap in the face because their athletes are also funded differently than many other athletes in the country.
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Paula Tierney
Maybe they should join the refugee team and finance themselves !
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The trick to get Quebec to separate is to get all Quebeckers to read articles about them on the National Post online. Then they’ll see all the hate-speech below those articles. That’s the kind of ‘friends’ they have in the Rest of Canada. Much of this speech would not be tolerated here if it were about pretty much any other ethnic group in Canada. Picture a fictional province made of 75% of any given other ethnic group : what would you allow yourself to say about them ?
Like · Reply · 2 · Aug 8, 2016 8:23am
Exact. If only we could translate in French all the hate that we find here, almost every Québécois would become an instant Separatist.
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 7:25pm
Léonce Naud Wo, pas à ce point-là. Il y a quand même beaucoup de gens qui vont préférer se dire que c’est pas représentatif, voire même dire que beaucoup de ces critiques sont valides !! Mais pas besoin de se tracasser pour ces cas irrécupérables, car ça nous prend juste 50% des électeurs.
Like · Reply · Aug 9, 2016 7:36pm
Shaun Dares
Ladies and gentlemen. This is nothing more than a political advertising ploy to boost the presence of the BQ. There will probably be a leadership race on its future, much like what is happening with the provincial Parti québécois right now. Nothing more to see than that.
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Jean-François Martin
FYI: Quebec invendted everything that differentiate Canada from the USA.
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Martin St-louis
Is proudness of your nation a wrong thing ? Why sould’nt Quebec be proud … after all at the euro soccer cup Nation can be proud and fight for the cup !! Are you sure to understand this clip?!
Like · Reply · 3 · Aug 6, 2016 6:54pm
Chris Stucki
Separate and take Truedou with you. Canada would lose nothing with the French separating.
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Kasper Witzen ·
Nah you can keep the boy prince
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Victoria Cross ·
Kasper Witzen Perhaps his mother`s home province wll take him in if he doesn`t become Roi du Quebec.
Like · Reply · 1 · Aug 6, 2016 2:11pm
Sunbury West Regional High School
Victoria Cross you would probably take him in a heart beat ! At least he got rid of that pig Harper
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Wayne Mroz ·
Sir John A. Macdonald High School
Every time the Liberals are in government, the Bloc always want to leave and separate.
Like · Reply · 5 · Aug 6, 2016 11:58am
Joseph Aspler
Ah … no. But nice try. The Bloc was founded under Mulroney (by people he had brought to Ottawa).In the 2015 federal election, Justin ran as a Quebecer, and gave them their worst drubbing ever … the Bloc got 19% of the vote.
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 5:34pm
Steve Blazosek ·
To borrow a line from the TV Comedy Absolutely Fabulous just cut the cord already ;))LOL if they want to be that selfish they wont last long and it will cause Canada as well as them to be annexed by the United States as we will then become a liability so that’s exactly how it will go down so yes be selfish as you always seem to be Quebec provincial government, when half the province really wants not part of this its a idiotic half that does but go ahead and ruin Canada ! :((((
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 4:49pm
Loa
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Steve Blazosek ·
To borrow a line from the TV Comedy Absolutely Fabulous just cut the cord already ;))LOL if they want to be that selfish they wont last long and it will cause Canada as well as them to be annexed by the United States as we will then become a liability so that’s exactly how it will go down so yes be selfish as you always seem to be Quebec provincial government, when half the province really wants not part of this its a idiotic half that does but go ahead and ruin Canada ! :((((
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 4:49pm
Coyne Nyquist ·
Remember, if Quebec wants to separate from Canada, they’ll have to pay for the gas line, any « foreign aid », and a bunch of other things. Once you leave, you’ll be treated like the UN is treating the UK So by all means, if you think it is worth it
Like · Reply · Aug 6, 2016 3:28pm
If Quebec wants to leave let them go, I can always cheer for another Hockey Team. They are acting like a bunch of SPOILED BRATS. Remember if you leave you take your share of the CANADIAN DEBT plus payback ALL the TRANSFER PAYMENTS YOU have RECEIVED !
Like · Reply · 4 · Aug 6, 2016 12:19pm
Stan Steier. It will never happen, no military, no RCMP, no currency, i would expect the main branches of canadian businesses would be leaving, wow, that would be a great loss in taxes, as well as military spending, suppliers to the military base, and civilian workers, small list, but more would be leaving their province, NO Transfer monies yearly, could make it tough, .one time there was a story about not being able to use the St Lawrence water ways ?
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MORE TO COME, SOON !!!
Québec bashing
John-James Charest ne veut pas régler les problèmes, au contraire, plus ça va mal, plus sa mission est accomplie
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Québec bashing
John Charest fut envoyé au provincial pour faire du Québec bashing mais de l’intérieur. Rappelez vous d’où il vient ; un député fédéral conservateur (à remarquer l’absence historique de discorde entre Ottawa et Québec depuis 6 ans). Le registre des armes à feu est un coup d’épée dans l’eau, juste une autre diversion et une dépense inutile. Les autres provinces ne s’enregistrent pas et il n’y a pas de frontières entre les provinces alors, à la fin, seul les québecois seront au registre. Je pense que c’était l’intention au départ.
Regardons les résultats ; en 2003 hausse des impôts $140 millions, augmentation du permis de conduire $501 millions, augmentation du régime de congé parentaux $124 millions, augmentation des frais de garderies $170 millions, taxe scolaire $165 millions, assurance médicament $173 millions, tarifs hydro Québec $971 millions, le gouvernement Charest est venu chercher $2.3 milliards dans nos poches dès son premier mandat, mais c’était juste pour se faire la main et voir la réaction du peuple, le pire était à venir.
Il a changé la loi sur la caisse de dépôt, afin que soit rendu possible la perte de $40 milliards de notre bas de laine, notre futur.
La corruption institutionnelle dans la construction est bien réelle et il en coûte 30% plus cher au Québec selon une étude fédérale $4 milliards par année. (il ne faut surtout pas arrêter ce gouffre financier avec une enquête publique). Plus récemment, nous savons que cette corruption est présente au plus haut niveau du gouvernement. Le financement des partis est à la base de toute cette corruption.
Aussi, sabotage de la fonction publique, baisse des services public et des emplois, gel des salaires ou presque. Les ppp. un partenariat : le peuple partage les frais et le privé partage les profits.
Cafouillage en santé, au mont Orford, en éducation, dans le dossier des gaz de schiste, dans les garderies (CPE), vendu Alcan, donne nos richesses naturelles (mines, forêt et gaz) aux étrangers, impose le bâillon au lieu de débattre, a attribué des centaines de postes importants aux amis du parti libéral (ceux-ci seront riches à la fin de leur mandat, si court soit il, nous leurs verseront une super pension, plus une super prime de départ équivalent au salaire de toute une vie d’un vrai travailleur.
On veut détruire les syndicats de travailleurs afin d’avoir le chemin libre à plus de magouilles ou de privatisations avec nos biens collectifs. Les syndicats sont d’excellents chiens de garde en plus de donner plus de pouvoir aux travailleurs.
Même les décisions banales comme les pneus d’hiver, même s’il n’y a pas de neige, ou la vérification des véhicules obligatoire et aux frais du propriétaire, viens encore chercher des dollars dans nos poches.
Plus récemment, frais de santé de $ 200. par personne, hausse des frais de scolarité, le plan nord ou on paient maintenant et on reçoit des redevances hypothétiques dans 15 ou 20 ans, quand ils ne seront plus là pour rendre des comptes de ce désastre. Veut-on exploiter le Québec comme on exploite l’Afrique ?
Les infrastructures tombent en ruine, le fédéral, responsables des ponts Champlain et Jacques-Cartier ne mettra pas un sou pour les réparer (c’est contre les convictions de Harper, il n’est pas logique de payer pour un peuple que l’on veut détruire) de toute façon, Harper n’a pas le temps de gouverner il est trop occupé à brasser des affaires. Jean Charest est d’accord avec Harper, faisons payer deux fois plutôt qu’une (impôts et péage) ou mieux encore, laissons traîner le problème. Montréal est congestionné, bref, non seulement on nous appauvrit mais on sabote nos leviers économiques et j’en passe.
Maintenant, il veut saboter le système juticiaire en le soumettant au législatif (enquête bidon et conditionnelle), rendre la province ingouvernable. Il donne aussi à ses amis mafieux jusqu’au printemps pour détruire tout documents embarrassants et reçoit l’aide de son ami Harper avec un refus de collaboration historique de la justice, la GRC.
Non, réellement, notre pire ennemi n’aurait pu faire mieux.
Les probabilités vont contre lui, c’est comme jeter les dés 50 fois et obtenir une paire de deux 50 fois, ç’est pas possible si les dés ne sont pas pipés.
C’est devenu évident, choisir entre un incompétent ou un imposteur est assez facile, je ne crois pas à son incompétence ni à la malchance, Jean Charest est un habile politicien et le tout est soigneusement orchestrée, de plus, toutes les décisions vont dans la même direction, appauvrir le Québec, mettre les méchants francophones en position vulnérable et sans réel pouvoir. C’est du sabotage tout azimut.
John Charest ne veut pas régler les problèmes, au contraire, plus ça va mal, plus sa mission est accomplie. C’est la raison de son entêtement, il désire que la situation s’envenime au maximum, le plus longtemps possible, avec des coûts maximums.
Tous les gens que je connais sont convaincus de la mission de bashing de Jean Charest, ils n’ont aucun doute, ils sont sûrs à 100%.
Étant affranchi de ce constat, vous remarquerez la justesse et la logique de ses décisions, regardez le bien agir et ça deviendra évident pour vous aussi.
N’écoutez pas ce qu’il dit, regardez ce qu’il fait.
Réfléchissez surtout aux conséquences à long terme de ce sabotage.
Fernand Durand
2012-04-18
Ps. Attention, vu leur arrogance, je sens qu’on veut nous refaire le coup de la caisse de dépôt. Les truands aiment refaire les coups faciles, si ça a marché une fois, ça marchera deux fois.
http://vigile.quebec/Quebec-bashing-47081
DO YOU NEED MORE EXAMPLES???
…Oh you don’t reed French? I’m so sorry for you.
La liste d’exemples de Québec bashing recense des cas de Québec bashing observés dans les médias.
Médias
The »bashing » Gazette
Célébration de la Fête nationale du Québec au parc Maisonneuve àMontréal (24 juin 2006).
Le 20 juin 2009, le journaliste Josh Freed publie l’article Politics ruin the party dans le quotidien provincial The Gazette. Il y commente le refus à deux groupes anglophones de se produire lors de la Fête nationale du Québec1. Dans l’article, Freed écrit que les « dinosaures du nationalisme tels ceux de la Société Saint-Jean Baptiste qui ont refusé à deux groupes anglophones de se produire » lui rappellent les vieux jours de l’« Apostrophe SS », un surnom donné à l’Office de la langue française il y a une trentaine d’années2 lorsque ce dernier a fait retirer les caractères « ‘s » à la fin des noms de commerces anglophones de la province, tels Eaton’s3.
Freed parle également de « phone-y war »1, faisant un jeu de mot avec l’expression anglophone Phoney War, désignant la drôle de guerre. Freed y compare aussi des membres de la Société Saint-Jean-Baptiste de Montréal à des « ayatollahs » nationalistes, l’empêchant de se sentir à 100 % Québécois pure laine.
En réaction à la publication de la chronique, l’Association des descendants des Patriotes a porté plainte au Conseil de presse du Québeccontre le quotidien et le journaliste. Selon Gilles Rhéaume, porte-parole de l’association, les propos tenus dans l’article sont diffamatoires puisqu’ils comparent les organisateurs aux nazis3.
Josh Freed a, quant à lui, déclaré qu’il avait voulu faire de l’humour absurde et que « comparer ces organisateurs à des SS est une chose horrible qu’il n’a jamais faite. »2
The »Bashing » Globe and Mail
L’une des entrées du Collège Dawson, le 15 septembre 2006.
Le 16 septembre 2006, la journaliste Jan Wong crée une polémique au Québec en publiant, dans le Globe and Mail, un article4 portant sur la fusillade au collège Dawson survenue à Montréal 3 jours auparavant. Elle écrit que les trois tueries en milieu scolaire survenues dans cette ville lors des 17 dernières années sont causées par le sentiment d’aliénation éprouvé par les immigrants ou les enfants d’immigrants au Québec, sentiment causé, selon elle, par la Loi 101 et le racisme des québécois dits « pure laine ».
L’article est vivement décrié, notamment par le Premier ministre du Québec Jean Charest, qui le dénonce dans une lettre ouverte parue dans les quotidiens canadiens le 20 septembre 2006. Le lendemain, le Premier ministre du Canada Stephen Harper dénonce à son tour l’article5. Une motion unanime de la Chambre des communes du Canada exige des excuses, qui n’ont jamais été faites par Wong ou leGlobe and Mail.
Le 11 mai 2007, le Conseil de presse du Québec blâme Wong, le quotidien The Globe and Mail et le rédacteur en chef Edward Greenspon pour cet article6. Madame Sylvia Stead, éditrice adjointe du Globe, a signalé, lors de cet événement, que le journal avait fait part de son désaccord avec l’opinion de la journaliste.
Le jeudi 11 mars 2010, dans un éditorial intitulé Intolerable intrusion7, le journal compare la fonction publique québécoise au régime des talibans d’Afghanistan à la suite de sa réaction au port du niqab par une étudiante du Cégep de Saint-Laurent8,9.
Le 21 septembre 2010, le chroniqueur Brad Wheeler estime que le groupe québécois Karkwa a dû son prix Polaris à un jury comprenant plusieurs francophones10. La direction du prix qualifie ces allégations de risibles11.
»Bashing » National Post
Le 9 août 2006, le National Post publie un texte de Barbara Kay, The rise of Quebecistan12, commentant une manifestation québécoise pour la paix et la justice au Libanréunissant environ 15 000 personnes dont des politiciens québécois provinciaux et fédéraux. L’article montre une image d’un participant brandissant un drapeau du Hezbollah.
The »Bashing » Calgary Herald
Le 7 septembre, à la suite de l’élection générale québécoise de 2012, la chroniqueuse Licia Corbella du Calgary Herald publie Are one-third of Quebec voters bigots? (« Est-ce qu’un tiers des électeurs québécois sont bigots ? »), un texte qui qualifie le programme du Parti québécois comme « bigot et raciste »trad 1 et qui dénonce le soutien à ce parti de près d’un tiers des Québécois13
»Bashing » Maclean’s
Le 24 septembre 2010, le magazine canadien Maclean’s publie un article affirmant que le Québec est la plus corrompue des provinces canadiennes14. L’article, The most corrupt province in CanadaN 1,15, est présenté en une à l’aide d’une image du Bonhomme Carnaval traînant une valise débordant de billets verts16,17. Soulignant divers événements datant de l’ère de Duplessis jusqu’à la Commission Bastarache, l’auteur affirme que la corruption est engendrée à la fois par la forte influence de l’État dans le modèle québécois et par le mouvement « séparatiste »18,19.
Le 18 mars 2011, le Conseil de presse du Québec rend un jugement unanime condamnant l’article du Maclean’s, soulignant des « […] manquements aux impératifs de rigueur journalistique (qui) portent préjudice à l’ensemble des Québécois » 20.
Film
Les »Bashing » États-désunis du Canada
En 2012, le film documentaire Les Etats-Désunis du Canada a fait réagir les médias québécois en montrant des propos anti-Québécois provenant de l’Ouest Canadien et des médias anglo-canadiens en général. La bande-annonce intitulé «No More Quebec» a été visionnée une centaine de milliers de fois en 24 heures et a été reprise dans des médias traditionnels et sociaux. Les Québécois y sont qualifiés de « voleurs », de « pleurnicheurs » et de « vermines »21
Internet
Caricature d’une perception de l’application de la Loi 101 prônée par leParti québécois (23 novembre 2009).
Wikipédia
Le 24 août 2010, un utilisateur anonyme écrivant à partir d’un ordinateur identifié comme appartenant aux bureaux de Services correctionnels Canada modifie l’article Loi sur les langues officielles (Canada) sur la Wikipédia en anglais et rebaptise cette dernière « The Quebec Nazi Act ». L’utilisateur ajoute que la loi « […] permet aux Québécois d’obtenir un traitement de faveur en ce qui concerne l’emploi par rapport aux Ontariens »trad 2,22,23.
»Bashing » Personnalités
Députés conservateurs québécois
»Bashing » Maxime Bernier, député fédéral.
Le 20 avril 2010, Le Devoir publie un article concernant des discours prononcés par le député conservateur Maxime Bernier où ce dernier pratique du Québec bashing.
« Disons-nous les choses franchement: dans le reste du pays, il y a beaucoup de gens qui perçoivent les Québécois comme des enfants gâtés qui n’en ont jamais assez et qui en redemandent toujours. Ce n’est pas pour rien si cette perception existe. Ça découle de 40 ans de débats futiles sur l’indépendance; 40 ans de politiques irresponsables de la part de gouvernements du Québec qui vivent au-dessus de leurs moyens et qui nous endettent; 40 ans de revendications pour aller chercher toujours plus d’argent dans les poches de nos concitoyens du reste du Canada. »
— Maxime Bernier, Le Devoir24
Deux jours plus tard, deux autres députés conservateurs, Jacques Gourde et Jean-Pierre Blackburn, donnent raison à Bernier et renchérissent sur le sujet. Blackburn affirme que le Bloc québécois est grandement responsable de l’image de « quémandeurs » projetée par les Québécois25.
« Pour les générations futures, mes enfants, mes petits-enfants, j’aimerais que le Québec prenne ses responsabilités financières. »
— Jacques Gourde, Le Devoir25
« L’image qu’on a projetée à l’extérieur du Québec, au niveau des autres provinces, c’est que le Québec demande tout le temps, quémande, n’est jamais content et n’est jamais satisfait »
— Jean-Pierre Blackburn, Le Devoir25
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Nicolas Sarkozy (février 2008)
Le 2 février 2009, lors de la remise de la Légion d’honneur au premier ministre du Québec, Jean Charest, le président français Nicolas Sarkozy en a profité pour faire une sortie contre les Québécois souverainistes, les traitant entre autres de sectaristes pratiquant la « détestation » de l’autre26 :
« Cet attachement à notre culture, à notre langue, à nos liens, pourquoi devrait-il se définir comme une opposition à qui que ce soit d’autre? (…) Croyez-vous, mes amis, que le monde, dans la crise sans précédent qu’il traverse, a besoin de division, a besoin de détestation? Est-ce que pour prouver qu’on aime les autres, on a besoin de détester leurs voisins? Quelle étrange idée! (…) Ceux qui ne comprennent pas cela, dit-il, je ne crois pas qu’ils nous aiment plus, je crois qu’ils n’ont pas compris que, dans l’essence de la Francophonie, dans les valeurs universelles que nous portons au Québec comme en France, il y a le refus du sectarisme, le refus de la division, le refus de l’enfermement sur soi-même, le refus de cette obligation de définir son identité par opposition féroce à l’autre. »
— Le Devoir, Sarkozy répudie le « ni-ni » sans ambiguïté, 3 février 200927.
À la suite de cette intervention, les chefs du Bloc québécois et du Parti québécois Gilles Duceppe et Pauline Marois ont envoyé une lettre de protestation28au président français dans laquelle ils écrivent que ce dernier ne semble pas réaliser la réalité québécoise29. Ils y affirment que « jamais un chef d’État étranger n’a autant manqué de respect aux plus de deux millions de Québécois qui se sont prononcés pour la souveraineté ».
Dans une réponse envoyée le 9 février 200930, Sarkozy précise, entre autres, « Je souhaite que cette nouvelle relation franco-québécoise s’épanouisse en harmonie avec la relation que la France entretient avec le Canada dans son ensemble »31.
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En mai 1997, lors d’un discours prononcé à l’association municipale de Westmount, le financier et milliardaire canadien Stephen Jarislowsky compare le nationalisme québécois de Jacques Parizeau et de Lucien Bouchard au nazisme allemand et au fascisme italien32.
Le 12 mai 2011, dans une entrevue au journal La Presse, il réitère ces déclarations et les étend à l’ensemble du mouvement souverainiste du Québec33. Une motion dénonçant ces propos est déposée à l’Assemblée nationale du Québec par le Parti québécois. Le Parti libéral, majoritaire, refuse de débattre la motion, qui est appuyée par tous les autres députés34.
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« Il est devenu acceptable en ce pays de mépriser les Canadiens français en les taxant d’être foncièrement (génétiquement, peut-être?) xénophobes, butés et racistes. La manœuvre est à la fois tellement transparente et intellectuellement piètre qu’on ne s’y attarderait pas si elle n’était pas en train de devenir un véritable modèle de dénigrement. (…) Ceux que René Lévesque appelait les « Rhodésiens » du Canada sont en train d’inventer un racisme subtil, politiquement correct. Car, derrière le paravent du multiculturalisme, ce sont les nostalgiques de la supériorité anglo-saxonne qui se cachent; ceux que font enrager l’exception québécoise et le défi qu’elle pose à l’hégémonie culturelle nord-américaine. »
— Luc Chartrand, L’actualité, 15 avril 2000.
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« (…) entendre parler de culture québécoise donnerait envie à Hermann Goering de sortir son revolver. »
— article du journal Toronto Sun, écrit par Peter Stockland, le 30 novembre 1989
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« Les Québécois possèdent d’immenses richesses mais, génération après génération, ils n’ont pas su exploiter pleinement ces dons à cause de l’aspect rétrograde de leur personnalité culturelle collective. »
— propos tenus par Pierre Elliott Trudeau, ancien premier ministre canadien, en février 1998 devant les médias. La source de cette citation est introuvable.
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« Le Québec me laisse un mauvais goût dans la bouche, selon moi, prenez ces bâtards et jetez-les dans l’océan. »
— propos tenus par le député libéral ontarien Jim Karygiannis, cité dans la Montreal Gazette du 16 septembre 1989
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« Ils se plaignent et gémissent et endommagent notre économie. Ils complotent et combinent et rêvent de créer un État ethnocentrique francophone. Ils réécrivent l’histoire. Ils créent de toutes pièces des revendications pour les injustices récentes. Ils irritent les Canadiens anglais pour aider leur cause. Ils sont, en un mot, méprisables (despicable). »
— article de l’influent journal d’affaires canadien Financial Post, écrit par sa rédactrice en chef Diane Francis, le 4 juillet 1996
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« Pour beaucoup de Canadiens, le Québec est une réserve ethnocentrique peuplée de racistes qui bouffent les anglophones ramassés la veille par les SS de la loi 101. Hostiles à l’étranger, fermés sur eux-mêmes, ils vivent aux crochets des autres provinces et n’ont d’économie et d’entreprises que subventionnées par des politiciens fédéraux vendus. Ils maltraitent les aborigènes et volent l’électricité des pauvres Terre-Neuviens… »
— L’actualité, Jean Paré (dénonçant le phénomène)
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« La mentalité traditionnelle de la plupart des Canadiens français (se résume à ceci) : superficiels, ils ne s’intéressent qu’à ce qui paraît ; pour eux, la réflexion, le courage, la générosité, la loyauté et autres qualités ne comptent pas, en règle générale. (…) La majorité des Canadiens français ruraux traditionnels ont la mentalité de peuples du tiers monde. Ils sont obnubilés par leur obsession sexuelle alors qu’ils semblent n’avoir aucune soif de connaissance. (…) La plupart d’entre eux sont complètement incapables de réflexion. Ils ne font que répéter slogans ou idées à la mode. (…) Leur ignorance est révoltante ! (…) Québec est un État policier. Il n’y existe ni liberté de presse ni liberté de parole. Les journaux anglais, les stations de radio et de télévision anglaises y appartiennent à des Franco-Canadiens. L’Office de la langue française, cette organisation ridicule, pompeuse et fanatique, y contrôle l’usage du français. Il faut converser, lire, écrire et même penser en français. »
— propos tenus par Yolanda East, ancienne fonctionnaire fédérale et écrivaine, citée et traduit par Paul Roy dans La Presse du 9 mars 1990
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« Assez des décennies d’apaisement; il est temps qu’Ottawa adopte une attitude disciplinaire (tough-love) envers le Québec. (…) Une telle approche ne [nous] fera aucun ami au Québec, mais au moins chacun dans le reste du pays cessera de se sentir imbécile (suckers) . »
— National Post, Editorial: Tell Quebec where to get off, 24 février 200935
L’expression « tough-love » signifie précisément une attitude disciplinaire que l’on adopte envers quelqu’un supposément dans un but d’amour. Cette expression s’apparente donc à une forme de paternalisme.
- Cité par Pierre Foglia dans La Presse du 16 décembre 200036, Mordecai Richler écrit à la même période dans le Atlantic Monthly que, au soir de la victoire du Parti québécois en 1976, ses jeunes membres chantaient « Tomorrow belongs to us… the chilling Hitler Youth song from Cabaret ».
Ce chant nazi, qui a été composé aux États-Unis expressément pour le film Cabaret, n’a jamais fait partie du répertoire des Jeunesses hitlériennes (contrairement à une croyance populaire auquel Richler adhère) et surtout n’était pas du tout chanté dans les assemblées du Parti québécois. Mais Richler, voulant absolument relier ce parti au nazisme, se confond avec le titre du slogan musical du compositeur québécois Stéphane Venne : À partir d’aujourd’hui, demain nous appartient. Sans même avoir entendu la chanson, il écrit donc aux quelque 400 000 lecteurs américains du Atlantic Monthly que le nazisme est présent dans un parti élu au Québec. Bien que Mordecai Richler ait reconnu son erreur dans Oh Canada! Oh Québec37, Atlantic Monthly ne tentera pas de corriger l’erreur par la suite.
Les trois citations suivantes sont tirées du site Aménagement linguistique dans le monde, de l’Université de Laval38.
- Regardez ce qui est arrivé au Canada, où les bilingualistes radicaux ont détenu le pouvoir au Québec. C’est maintenant une violation criminelle pour des sociétés de ne pas donner une facturation française égale avec l’anglais. Ils ont doublé la paperasserie, ont renforcé le coût de gestion des affaires et ont contraint les entreprises à sortir de la province.
« Look what happened in Canada, where radical bilingualists have held power in Québec. It is now criminal offense for companies not to give French equal billing with English. It’s doubled the paperwork load, driven up the cost of doing business and forced businesses out of the province. »
- Une majorité française force une minorité anglophone à instruire ses enfants en français.
« A French majority is forcing an English-speaking minority to educate its children in French. »
— International Journal of the Sociology of Language (1986)
- Je considère personnellement la législation québécoise comme une farce pour les droits linguistiques de l’homme, car elle nie l’accès des immigrants à l’anglais et les force à apprendre le français.
« I personnally find the Quebecois legislation a travesty of linguistic human rights, denying immigrants access to English and forcing them to learn French. »
— International Journal of the Sociology of Language , Christina Bratt Paulston
« Monckton fit (…), comme militaire en Acadie et dans la région de Québec, des gestes inacceptables et d’une grande cruauté qui équivalent, à n’en pas douter, à des crimes de génocide, à des crimes contre la paix, à des crimes de guerre et à des crimes contre l’humanité, au sens où nous l’entendons aujourd’hui.
Le Canada est l’un des rares pays du monde, en dehors de l’ancienne Union soviétique, où, sans vergogne et avec autant de cynisme et de satisfaction, on afflige orgueilleusement et de façon permanente ceux qui ont été défaits de représentations symboliques qui tentent de les humilier, de leur faire constater leur condition de vaincus et de glorifier leurs vainqueurs. Avec des villes portant les noms de Moncton, Colborne, etc., ou des rues qui s’appellent Wolfe, Amherst, Murray, Fraser, Moncton, etc.
Verrait-on à Paris une rue Adolphe-Hitler [sic] ou encore une rue portant le nom de celui qui commandait la division Das Reich, qui a perpétré le massacre d’Oradour-sur-Glane en juin 1944? Verrait-on en France une ville s’appeler Rommel ou Goering? »
— Pr. François Baby, L’Action nationale, août 1999.
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_d%27exemples_de_Qu%C3%A9bec_bashing
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Jean-Paul Perreault s’attend à des excuses de Trudeau
«De voir que le premier ministre Trudeau s’excuse d’avoir parlé en français au Québec, c’est révoltant», affirme Jean-Paul Perreault, d’Impératif français.
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Le Droit
Si Justin Trudeau s’excuse pour avoir répondu en français à un anglophone au Québec, il devrait en faire autant envers les francophones pour les «pratiques discriminatoires» au sein du gouvernement, estime Jean-Paul Perreault, d’Impératif français.
«À quand les excuses? Moi, je m’attends à en avoir autant», a fait valoir M. Perreault, qui a qualifié «d’aberration incroyable» les excuses transmises par le premier ministre Trudeau aux anglophones du Québec pour avoir répondu en français à une question posée en anglais lors d’une rencontre publique tenue récemment à Sherbrooke. La lettre d’excuses rédigée en anglais seulement a été envoyée au Quebec Community Groups Network qui l’a mis en ligne sur son site.
«De voir que le premier ministre Trudeau s’excuse d’avoir parlé en français au Québec, c’est révoltant. Le message qu’il donne à l’ensemble des Québécois, c’est qu’il faut parler en anglais aux anglophones, et si vous ne le faites pas, excusez-vous. C’est la vieille image d’occupant. Entre eux, les francophones peuvent parler français. Mais s’il y a un anglophone dans la salle, il faut que tout le monde parle anglais. C’est une grave erreur d’avoir donné raison à un groupe qui prône l’anglicisation du Québec où la langue commune de la diversité est le français» soutient M. Perreault.
Suivant la logique de M. Trudeau, le président d’Impératif français a déposé une plainte auprès du commissaire aux langues officielles pour dénoncer des pratiques en vigueur au sein du gouvernement lors de nominations de ministres et d’autres hauts dirigeants et fonctionnaires du gouvernement canadien incapables de parler français.
M. Perreault a indiqué avoir reçu un appel du Commissariat lui indiquant que sa plainte était «non recevable» puisqu’elle ne vise pas un cas particulier.
Le mythe du bilinguisme canadien
Qui croit encore au bilinguisme canadien, au-delà des fédéralistes militants qui ont besoin d’entretenir cette illusion pour convaincre les Québécois que le Canada est encore leur pays? Le rêve de Pierre Elliot Trudeau d’une nation bilingue d’un continent à l’autre n’est plus qu’un fantasme idéologique qui sert la propagande fédérale mais qui est démenti par la réalité. Dans les faits, le Canada est un pays anglais avec une province francophone qu’il cherche à bilinguiser. Car quoi qu’on dise à propos de la loi 101, elle est concurrencée par la loi fédérale sur les langues officielles qui invalide ses prétentions à faire du français la langue commune du Québec. Les immigrants comprennent parfaitement le message, lorsque plusieurs d’entre eux répondent à ceux qui leur demandent pourquoi ils ne parlent pas français que le Canada est un pays bilingue et qu’eux préfèrent simplement l’anglais. Du point de vue canadien, au Québec, le français est une langue optionnelle. Faut-il ajouter que la loi 101 a aussi été déconstruite par les tribunaux fédéraux?
Au jour le jour, on peut entendre dans les rues l’anglicisation de la métropole. Bonjour/Hi. La formule est devenue tellement courante que je devine que le commun des mortels ne l’entend plus. Chaque fois qu’on la prononce, pourtant, on enterre la loi 101. Car que dit cette formule? Qu’au jour le jour, on a le choix entre le français et l’anglais, et que le français n’est aucunement nécessaire pour fonctionner au Québec. Il y a une trentaine d’années, une telle formule aurait heurté le sentiment national des Québécois francophones : à l’époque, ils ne voulaient pas devenir des étrangers chez eux non plus qu’une minorité dans le seul d’Amérique qui leur appartient. Aujourd’hui, surtout chez les plus jeunes, ils sont de plus en plus nombreux à l’apprécier. Ils y voient une marque de la diversité montréalaise et de la grande ouverture au pluralisme identitaire qui caractériserait pour le mieux notre société. Le bonjour/hi est en train de devenir le symbole principal de l’identité montréalaise. Et à travers cela, Montréal se sépare culturellement du reste du Québec.
Le sort réservé aux francophones dans la fonction publique fédérale représente bien celui du français en général : c’est celui d’une langue de traduction. Le mythe du Canada bilingue aura duré une génération. Finalement, il n’aura servi qu’à justifier la lutte contre le français au Québec. D’ailleurs, d’une génération à l’autre, on voit ce que le Canada fait aux Québécois : Justin Trudeau, le Canadien par excellence, maîtrise infiniment mieux l’anglais que le français. Il incarne bien la mutation identitaire qui attend les Québécois s’ils demeurent dans la fédération. On ajoutera que les Québécois acceptent de plus en plus de se définir à partir de l’image que le multiculturalisme fédéral fait d’eux. À l’époque de la Révolution tranquille, ils se croyaient en droit d’imposer le français chez eux. Maintenant, ils se contentent de réclamer des services en français et ont l’impression d’être bien traités. Pire encore: quand certains nationalistes veulent prendre des mesures politiques fortes pour assurer la survie du français, on les accuse de cultiver l’anglophobie et la xénophobie en plus de vouloir mettre en place des politiques discriminatoires, fondées sur la «peur de l’autre». Les élites québécoises ont intériorisé le point de vue trudeauiste sur le Québec.
Le peuple québécois n’existe ni juridiquement, ni politiquement, ni symboliquement au Canada, et il en est venu à l’accepter. Ce n’est pas sans conséquences. Et dans la mesure où le Canada croit le nationalisme québécois vaincu pour de bon, il redevient le pays qu’il a toujours été : un pays anglais avec une minorité francophone qu’il se croit incroyablement généreux d’accommoder mais qu’il refuse fondamentalement de considérer comme une nation à part entière, en droit de définir les modalités de son existence collective. On pourrait dire la chose plus crument: le Canada anglais se trouve manifestement généreux de ne pas travailler à nous assimiler activement. Ce qui est le plus triste dans tout ça, c’est que les Québécois eux-mêmes se félicitent qu’on les tolère encore et y voient une victoire résultant des luttes menées par plusieurs générations pour assurer leur survie. C’est ce qu’on appelle se contenter de peu. C’est aussi ce qu’on pourrait appeler mourir à petit feu.
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/01/07/le-mythe-du-bilinguisme-canadien
Les GOOD-FRENCH
Il existe même des »jobbers » qui font le travail du Québec-Bashing de l’intérieur. Voici un exemple parfait et réel qui c’est passé à la SAQ (Société des Alcools du Québec): Je cherchais une carte cadeau pour offrir à quelqu’un, j’ai demandé au commis (1302892) si j’avais un choix de carte et il m’a montré la sélection de cartes en me disant qu’il y avait que deux choix. Une carte »ÉCOLO » et une autre carte »SÉPARATISTE » pour ceux qui l’étaient encore. Rien ne prouvait que cette carte n’était pas digne d’être sur le marché à la SAQ. Je lui ai demandé si c’était une maladie d’être séparatiste et il m’a répondu que c’était du passé. Un jeune »good-french » qui fait la promotion de ses visions condescendantes. Ce beau moineau à la SAQ de la rue Fleury m’a répondu de cette façon à la caisse (3) d’une institution québécoise. Un jeune dans la vingtaine. C’est inacceptable! 2018-02-02 in Montreeal Qwobayk
La classe politique choquée par Justin Trudeau
OTTAWA – Critiqué de toutes parts, Justin Trudeau a nié vendredi avoir comparé l’indépendantisme québécois au violent séparatisme sikh. Si le premier ministre a bel et bien fait la comparaison, elle est irresponsable et sans fondement, jugent plusieurs intervenants.
«Le mouvement khalistanais [du nom de l’État revendiqué par les nationalistes sikhs] a fait usage d’une grande violence, surtout à son sommet dans les années 80 et 90. Malgré des épisodes de violence avec le FLQ, ça fait plusieurs décennies que les souverainistes au Québec n’ont recours qu’à des moyens pacifiques et démocratiques», a expliqué le professeur de politique à l’Université McGill, Narendra Subramanian.
Les séparatistes sikhs sont, par exemple, responsables de l’attentat contre le vol 182 d’Air India qui a fait plus de 300 morts en 1985.
Justin Trudeau a nié avoir fait la comparaison rapportée dans un communiqué du gouvernement du Pendjab. «Le rapport est entièrement faux. Je n’ai pas dit ça», a assuré le premier ministre du Canada en point de presse à Delhi, en se disant fier de la diversité d’opinions au pays.
Si le premier ministre a bel et bien tenu les propos allégués, il s’agirait d’une approche irresponsable, selon le professeur de droit à l’Université de Montréal, Daniel Turp.
«Un leader canadien ne devrait jamais s’aventurer sur ce terrain-là», a commenté le dirigeant de l’Institut de recherche sur l’autodétermination des peuples et les indépendances nationales.
D’après l’ex-député péquiste, Justin Trudeau devrait plutôt rappeler à l’international que la Cour suprême a reconnu le droit du Québec à l’indépendance.
Une source de fierté, dit Couillard
De son côté, le premier ministre du Québec a affirmé «qu’on peut s’enorgueillir» de la façon dont la question de la souveraineté est gérée dans la province.
«Évidemment, on a eu les épisodes des années 60, la crise d’octobre, mais depuis ces années-là, on l’a traitée de façon très pacifique et démocratique au Québec», a affirmé Philippe Couillard, en déplacement à Washington.
Si Justin Trudeau a bel et bien tenu les propos qu’on lui reproche, M. Couillard s’est dit, pour une rare fois, d’accord avec ses adversaires politiques.
Colère dans les rangs souverainistes
En effet, les commentaires allégués ont piqué au vif le chef du Parti québécois (PQ), Jean-François Lisée. «Que Justin Trudeau se ridiculise en Inde, c’est son affaire. Mais identifier le mouvement indépendantiste québécois actuel à la violence est mensonger et irrespectueux», a écrit sur Twitter le chef de l’opposition à l’Assemblée nationale.
Le co-porte-parole de Québec solidaire, Gabriel Nadeau-Dubois, a quant à lui critiqué le fait que le premier ministre accuse ses hôtes de mentir et a réclamé des excuses. «Jusqu’où @JustinTrudeau est-il prêt à aller pour plaire à l’international?» a-t-il demandé sur le réseau social.
La chef du Bloc québécois, Martine Ouellet, a qualifié de fourbes les insinuations attribuées au premier ministre. «C’est salir à l’international la réputation de millions de Québécois qui portent ce projet de liberté», a-t-elle déclaré.
Indignation au fédéral
Les propos allégués de Justin Trudeau ont également semé la colère au sein des principaux partis d’opposition fédéraux.
«C’est une énorme gaffe. C’est insultant pour le mouvement souverainiste au Québec, qui est démocratique et pacifique, et c’est aussi insultant pour les Indiens, pour qui ce conflit régional a fait plus de 80 000 morts», a dénoncé le lieutenant québécois du Nouveau Parti démocratique, Alexandre Boulerice, en point de presse à Ottawa.
Les conservateurs ont dénoncé de leur côté un «total manque de jugement». «S’il a tenu de tels propos, ils sont insensés. Justin Trudeau compare les souverainistes québécois à un mouvement extrémiste violent. C’est indigne de sa fonction», a fait savoir le lieutenant québécois de l’opposition officielle, Alain Rayes, par communiqué.
http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/02/23/la-classe-politique-choquee-par-justin-trudeau
Tous les prétextes sont bons
Une chose est sûre. Si, au fil de ma carrière, on m’avait donné 10 $ pour chaque article que j’ai dû me taper dans les médias anglophones sur la présumée xénophobie atavique des Québécois, je serais déjà millionnaire.
Depuis la montée du nationalisme québécois moderne, il en pleut. Ici, au Canada anglais et à l’étranger. Même le ministre géniteur de la loi 101, le brillant Dr Camille Laurin, s’y faisait comparer à Joseph Goebbels, l’infâme ministre de la Propagande nazie sous Hitler.
Tout au long de la saga de l’accord du lac Meech, ce fut aussi un méga festival de Québécois bashing. Si le Québec était reconnu comme une « société distincte », lisait-on, il opprimerait ses minorités encore plus (sic).
Puis vint Mordecai Richler. Ses diatribes francophobes dégoulinaient jusque dans les pages du New Yorker. Et que dire de l’inoubliable Jan Wong, chroniqueuse populaire du très torontois Globe and Mail ? Après la tuerie au cégep Dawson, elle traçait un lien délirant entre un présumé « sentiment d’aliénation des non-francophones » et les fusillades de Polytechnique, Concordia et Dawson.
You name it
https://www.journaldemontreal.com/2018/07/20/tous-les-pretextes-sont-bons
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